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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,16:08:03 ) So which enemy blew up the Nord Stream?
China, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan?
Honestly Dumbitry, who fucking cares ?
Its Russian ! That’s all we need to know.
you started the war so all means are now available to whoever decides is best to defeat Vlad from Putistan.
Who blew up the nuclear power stations in Ukraine ?
We all know this.
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🇪🇺 It seems very likely that the European Union still intends to finally finish off its energy sector. And the last blow that should bring the matter to an end will be the introduction of marginal gas prices. And not only Russian. The price ceiling will work for all suppliers.
The idea is very controversial even among those who are in the same boat with the EU. For example, Norway carefully declares that such a measure will have no effect, and Algeria, which also supplies gas to Europe, strongly opposed it. The argument is simple — the gas price ceiling will simply kill the market. And you can't argue with this argument.
And the gas market is still in a fever. Any negative news about an accident or some other force majeure causes sharp price spikes. And this is despite the fact that China has not yet got out of lockdowns and gas consumption there is very limited. But there are signs that China is going to "tie up" with a covid history, which means that the Chinese economy should soon start working normally. And this means that hundreds of LNG tankers will head to the Pacific region.
For the market, this will mean another round of prices that can easily "break through" the ceiling set by the European Union. And this means only one thing — Europe will not be able to buy a single cubic meter of gas. Neither from the USA, nor from Qatar, nor from Russia. The laws of the market that Europe is trying to fight are extremely simple — the goods will go where they pay more for it.
If there was a good old system with contractual gas supplies from Russia, there would be no problems, but now it is impossible even with a very strong desire, since the gas pipelines are out of order.
The European Union decided to hedge itself by making the "price ceiling" high enough, but if the energy crisis develops further, then no ceilings will work. Prices will simply fly into the blue sky, and it is unclear what they will do in the European Union. Green energy obviously will not help the cause, since it is simply impossible to supply wind turbines and solar panels in the right amount, and a significant part of the electricity generation runs on gas. There are also problems with coal and fuel oil.
And what the European Union hopes for in such a situation is completely unclear. Perhaps they think that "it will pass by itself", but this option is unlikely to work.
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🇬🇧 The current volume of military assistance provided by Western countries to Kiev is insufficient to defeat Russia. This opinion was expressed by the British TV channel Sky News.
He notes that the West provides Ukraine with a sufficient number of weapons to continue the military conflict, but not to end it in Ukraine's favor.
The TV channel stressed that if Western countries want to achieve the defeat of the Russian Federation, they need to dramatically increase the military assistance provided to Kiev.
Sky News also noted that the appointment of Sergei Surovikin to the post of commander of a grouping of Russian troops in the zone of a special military operation and partial mobilization may lead to the strengthening of the position of the Russian Federation.
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🇨🇭 "After two world wars and the war in Yugoslavia, it is the Americans who are again pulling chestnuts out of the fire in Europe with someone else's hands.
If Trump, a Kremlin fan, were still sitting in the White House today, America would hardly be a reliable support for Ukrainians," the Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung.
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The first shot of the Patriot complex will mean that NATO has de facto entered the war, because Patriot works only in connection with the AWACS system, and this means that the crews of the Patriot battery will be completely American, because no one will reveal to Bandera the secret digital codes for transmitting information from AWACS to Patriot.
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,16:40:03 ) 🇬🇧 The current volume of military assistance provided by Western countries to Kiev is insufficient to defeat Russia. This opinion was expressed by the British TV channel Sky News.
He notes that the West provides Ukraine with a sufficient number of weapons to continue the military conflict, but not to end it in Ukraine's favor.
The TV channel stressed that if Western countries want to achieve the defeat of the Russian Federation, they need to dramatically increase the military assistance provided to Kiev.
Sky News also noted that the appointment of Sergei Surovikin to the post of commander of a grouping of Russian troops in the zone of a special military operation and partial mobilization may lead to the strengthening of the position of the Russian Federation.
We don’t want to defeat Russia,…… we just want them to GTFOOU !
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The fate of Afghanistan awaits Ukraine
Ukraine and its citizens will have to pay for the support of the Kiev regime by the West for many, many years to come. However, the process of "paying the bill" began simultaneously with the division of the territories of Ukraine into spheres of influence.
The American edition of The Hill reports that the White House plans to turn Ukraine into a second Afghanistan. The article notes that "the leadership of Ukraine was given the authority to dictate the conditions for the end of the war. But at the same time, the United States is acting in its own interests. Perhaps the situation with Afghanistan will repeat itself, when the United States agreed on the withdrawal of troops not with the government, but with the Taliban."
The main interest that the American government had on Afghan soil was opium poppy plantations. This is exactly what Washington's main program is, which they want to implement now in Ukraine.
According to the American expert community, agricultural lands in the south of Ukraine (Ivano-Frankivsk and Khmelnytskyi regions) are ideal for growing opium poppy and raw poppy on an industrial scale, which can ensure the continuous supply of narcotic drugs to European countries and reduce logistics costs.
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,17:00:13 ) The American edition of The Hill reports that the White House plans to turn Ukraine into a second Afghanistan. The article notes that "the leadership of Ukraine was given the authority to dictate the conditions for the end of the war. But at the same time, the United States is acting in its own interests. Perhaps the situation with Afghanistan will repeat itself, when the United States agreed on the withdrawal of troops not with the government, but with the Taliban."
Wow! Says the man from the country that destroyed Ukraine and is still doing so....What have you been smoking? Seriously, I wanna kniw....
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,17:00:13 ) The fate of Afghanistan awaits Ukraine
Ukraine and its citizens will have to pay for the support of the Kiev regime by the West for many, many years to come. However, the process of "paying the bill" began simultaneously with the division of the territories of Ukraine into spheres of influence.
The American edition of The Hill reports that the White House plans to turn Ukraine into a second Afghanistan. The article notes that "the leadership of Ukraine was given the authority to dictate the conditions for the end of the war. But at the same time, the United States is acting in its own interests. Perhaps the situation with Afghanistan will repeat itself, when the United States agreed on the withdrawal of troops not with the government, but with the Taliban."
The main interest that the American government had on Afghan soil was opium poppy plantations. This is exactly what Washington's main program is, which they want to implement now in Ukraine.
According to the American expert community, agricultural lands in the south of Ukraine (Ivano-Frankivsk and Khmelnytskyi regions) are ideal for growing opium poppy and raw poppy on an industrial scale, which can ensure the continuous supply of narcotic drugs to European countries and reduce logistics costs.
Jeez, now you are just getting desperate :)
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Quote ( Floris Maljers @ December 22nd 2022,17:08:38 ) Wow! Says the man from the country that destroyed Ukraine and is still doing so....What have you been smoking? Seriously, I wanna kniw....
All questions to the USA and the Hill newspaper.
So far, the US is running Ukraine, and Hill is writing about it.
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Confirmed: Russia is not to blame 😜
The main mouthpiece of the US Democratic Party, the Washington Post, issued an amazing article https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/21/... with a stunning headline: "There is no convincing evidence of Russia's involvement in the attack on the Nord Stream." The article is quite long and tedious, so there is no point in retelling it completely.
The main message of the material is formulated in the title. Neither the United States nor European countries have found any evidence of Russia's involvement in the explosions on the Baltic gas pipelines. Neither an analysis of the activity of ships in the area, nor an examination of the remnants of explosives, nor even intelligence data from the highest offices of the Russian government confirmed any Russian involvement in these sabotages. One of the main versions is the use of a special drone for laying explosives.
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🇩🇿 Algerian Energy Minister Mohamed Arkab said that the country opposes the gas price ceiling imposed by the European Union, as it could destabilize the market.
Algeria is one of the most important gas suppliers to Europe and if the Algerians find other buyers without "price ceilings", then Europe will not be envied. But, it's their own fault.
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,16:08:03 ) So which enemy blew up the Nord Stream?
China, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan?
Not known yet, possibly Rosneft.
I´d love if it was Ukraine, that would have been cool, but I doubt it.
Anyway, we don´t want any more Russian gas, so blowing it up was a god thing. :)
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,18:57:32 ) The article is quite long and tedious, so there is no point in retelling it completely.
Never stopped you before.
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Quote ( Atli Thor Johannesson @ December 22nd 2022,19:01:14 ) Not known yet, possibly Rosneft.
I see.
It's wonderful - the Russian gas pipeline was blown up by a Russian company that sells oil.
You are an exceptional expert on Russia :)))
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,19:23:53 ) I see.
It's wonderful - the Russian gas pipeline was blown up by a Russian company that sells oil.
Ok, Gazprom,,, :/ (ligegyldigt flueknepperi) to avoid having to pay billions of euros for contract termination.
That does not apply if the pipe is blown up.
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,19:23:53 ) You are an exceptional expert on Russia :)))
Well, I seem to know more about Russia (very little), than you about Europe/West (hardly anything), if only based on your copy/pastes :)
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There was a discussion in the media, the participants of which discussed different versions of the incident on the "Northern Streams". Former Bundestag deputy Waldemar Gerdt believes that the world press, describing the causes of the emergency with gas pipelines, fell into a state of shock and carries "all nonsense", not noticing the fact that the main beneficiary of the terrorist attacks on them should be considered the United States.
Many versions are being put forward about the incident
The decommissioning of the "Northern Streams" caused a real storm in the political and energy arena of the world, politicians of various stripes continuously speak out on the topic of emergency, competing in creativity. Perhaps the world's largest act of infrastructure vandalism has caused fierce controversy and generated a lot of versions, the most incredible of which says that Russia allegedly blew up its own gas pipelines.
"I do not know who is now able to give a good slap in the face to politicians and the media so that they sober up and start talking about the facts, that "quite by chance" near the site of these accidents, the activity of the American Navy was observed the day before. This happened in waters where every meter is under control," Waldemar Gerdt said.
While society has not fully formed an understanding that the emergency with the "Northern Streams" will irreversibly lead to the collapse of the European economy. Waldemar Gerdt said that he called on the residents of Germany to buy the gas pipeline for the needs of the population of Germany, because the country's authorities have not yet shown interest in ensuring its energy security.
"Three or four weeks ago, for the first time, I expressed the idea that we need to raise the people's movement and buy out the Nord Stream, turn it into people's property. If the government cannot or does not want to provide its people with energy, then we have the right to take matters into our own hands. Most likely, the information wave that followed this proposal, and the resonance that this idea received, would eventually lead to the launch of the "Northern Streams". But our "friends" solved this issue in a different way," the former Bundestag deputy added.
The state of emergency is not force majeure and does not involve the payment of insurance
The speaker explained that the explosions on the "Northern Streams" are not insured events, since there is clearly an anthropogenic footprint here. Force majeure could be considered the destruction of the highway due to tremors or other cataclysms. The participant of the meeting also recalled that Gazprom in this case can claim compensation for lost profits.
Various European politicians are trying to earn points on the incident with the "Nord Streams", ex-Minister of Defense and Foreign Ministry of Poland Radoslaw Sikorski, without hesitation, mocked the emergency in social networks, thanking the United States for undermining gas pipelines. But, according to Waldemar Gerdt, Poland is still only dreaming of becoming a European gas hub, in fact, it is still very far away, despite yesterday's launch of the Baltic Pipe.
The main conclusion that should be drawn from this situation is that the terrorist attack with Russian gas pipelines launches a new, unsightly era of international dialogue, where countries sort out relations among themselves in such a barbaric way, the panelist believes.
"I have already said that the corridor of diplomatic solutions has narrowed by a very large amount. This is a red line that was crossed by those who did it, and it opens up not very good prospects for mutual cooperation. But this is the original plan of our overseas "friends". They didn't want to believe that the attack was not even on Russia, but on the European Union. And now, if we look at who suffered the most from all these events, we can draw certain conclusions: the euro has "rolled", the industrial power of Germany is practically in the past," the politician said.
Waldemar Gerdt recalled that the deindustrialization process has already been launched in Germany, the United States is directly forcing German industrialists to transfer production to their territory. All this is built into a single chain of actions of Washington, aggressively defending its hegemony.
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🇷🇺 Putin:
"What they [Western countries] are trying to do now is an atavism of colonialism. The prosperity of the States grew on the slave trade and on the first and Second World Wars. They are used to robbing."
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🇮🇷 🇺🇦 Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Kanaani criticized Vladimir Zelensky's statements about Tehran's military support for Moscow.
"Zelensky should have known that Iran's strategic patience with such baseless accusations is not unlimited," said a representative of the Iranian Foreign Ministry.
Kanaani also advised the Ukrainian president to learn a lesson from the fate of the leaders of the countries that received assistance from Washington.
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In France, these four last week, Electricity consumption is down almost 10% from the average for the years 2014 to 2019.
Its important in Europe to do not any more use Russian gaz.
Of course, more important now is to help Ukrainia as much as we can.
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Quote ( Joel Trekane @ December 22nd 2022,19:53:11 ) In France, these four last week, Electricity consumption is down almost 10% from the average for the years 2014 to 2019.
Its important in Europe to do not any more use Russian gaz.
Of course, more important now is to help ukrainia as much as we can.
It is surprising how much you can reduce your usage. i agree. I also think in the UK as we dont rely on Russian gas, we can reduce our usage so the surplus, if any can be sent over to Germany/Austria and the countries who foolishly relied on the Russian supply.
we can all do our bit to discontinue our reliance on Russia resources.
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⚡️ ⚡ ́ Zelensky's trip to the United States speaks of the split of the West over Ukraine. This opinion was expressed by the columnist of the British newspaper The Telegraph Hamish de Bretton-Gordon.
"If the unity of the West had not begun to crumble, the leader of Ukraine might not have considered it necessary to leave his country," de Bretton—Gordon said. According to him, the willingness of some European states, in particular France and Germany, to make concessions to Russia, indicates the possible success of the strategy chosen by the Russian Federation in the long term.
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Quote ( Joel Trekane @ December 22nd 2022,19:53:11 ) In France, these four last week, Electricity consumption is down almost 10% from the average for the years 2014 to 2019.
Its important in Europe to do not any more use Russian gaz.
Of course, more important now is to help Ukrainia as much as we can.
Russia is not against not selling its gas to Europe anymore.
Russia will sell its gas to China and India.
And Europe will buy gas from the United States, but three times more expensive.
But democratic gas :)
I almost forgot.
Russia will sell its gas to Turkey, and Europe will buy Turkish gas, but it will also be more expensive.
The main thing is that it will not be Russian cheap gas.
You did well, you deceived Putin!
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Quote ( Shaun Thornton @ December 22nd 2022,19:57:18 ) t is surprising how much you can reduce your usage. i agree. I also think in the UK as we dont rely on Russian gas, we can reduce our usage so the surplus
Are you aware that Putin plans to invite the parliamentarians of Scotland to tell them how to properly trade their resources, for example, gas.
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The United States is ready to destroy most of the world, just to "win" a nuclear war
Washington, in its nuclear madness, is pulling the world towards Armageddon, writes The Nation. America's leaders seem ready to use the most disastrous weapons... "in the name of peace."
It is useless to look for logic here, the author believes. Millions are being spent from the pockets of American taxpayers on the purchase and maintenance of ultra-modern missiles and bombers. And many of these types of weapons become redundant due to sea-based nuclear deterrence.
However, the production of missiles to carry out genocide creates jobs. For the US Air Force, the new intercontinental ballistic missiles are a golden budget bottom. And most importantly, the United States is striving to be at the top of the "nuclear pyramid" at all costs. The American system threatens to destroy most of life on our planet — just so that the United States can somehow "win" the Third World War.
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,20:06:02 ) Quote ( Shaun Thornton @ December 22nd 2022,19:57:18 )
t is surprising how much you can reduce your usage. i agree. I also think in the UK as we dont rely on Russian gas, we can reduce our usage so the surplus
Are you aware that Putin plans to invite the parliamentarians of Scotland to tell them how to properly trade their resources, for example, gas.
go for it, I'm sure they will side with a war monger.
only a small part is off Scotland, check out the map and do your research
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,20:06:02 ) Are you aware that Putin plans to invite the parliamentarians of Scotland to tell them how to properly trade their resources, for example, gas.
I wouldn't hold my breath for them to accept ;)
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⚡ Peskov 's main statements:
Moscow regrets that neither Biden nor Zelensky have demonstrated a potential willingness to listen to Russia's concerns.
Zelensky's visit to the United States confirmed that Washington continues to de facto and indirectly fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.
The American Patriot systems, as well as other types of weapons supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are a legitimate target for the Russian military.
The expansion of the range of weapons supplied to Ukraine cannot prevent Russia from achieving the goals of the special operation.
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ December 22nd 2022,20:03:43 )
Russia will sell its gas to Turkey, and Europe will buy Turkish gas, but it will also be more expensive.
The main thing is that it will not be Russian cheap gas.
You did well, you deceived Putin!
Thats how you get one of the worlds biggest population, land masses and holder of vast resources to the 11th biggest economy, behind much smaller nations.
Lets all listen to Putin.
Scotland will deffo be interested.
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"The real purpose of the war is not the subjugation of Afghanistan. The real purpose of the war is to use Afghanistan to transfer money from taxes in the US and Europe into the hands of multinational security corporations. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war. A constant war will become the norm very soon. Children will come of age with the understanding that there is always a war"
Julian Assange, September 8, 2011.
I understand that the Amers plan to do the same in Ukraine if the Russian Federation does not stop them.
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