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'Driver notified us that he is unhappy with your last races strategy.'
'Driver canceled the contract with your team'.
Sponsors can, drivers should.
I know it's going to rock a little the historical buildings and ancient approaches but, driver's should have a Satisfaction too and the... actions against their emotional well-being should be more... cautious. And for the emotional well-being of some more sensitive Managers. :-D
Seriously, who else is against suffering?
Should I bring the behind the scenes testimony of the legend Dino Miles (the IV) himself? ;-)
EDIT: Would be based on the Motivation but Charisma and/or Reputation could play a role, in favour or against. Well driver's Reputation isn't high on average from what I could inspect.
EDIT2: Teams could get a compensation of 50% of the salaries paid, excluding bonuses.
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I dont think we need another mechanic that would punish managers already struggling with results
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#3 posted Mar 31st 2022, 19:55:27
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Joke suggestion posted a day early... April Fools' Day is tomorrow !
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#4 posted Mar 31st 2022, 20:02:50
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Quote ( Mike Bennett @ March 31st 2022,19:55:27 ) Joke suggestion posted a day early... April Fools' Day is tomorrow !
No need to be rude, it aint such a bad suggestion
I do think some new mechanic that used charisma for something would be good
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#5 posted Mar 31st 2022, 20:09:51 (last edited Mar 31st 2022, 20:10:35 by Sonny Long)
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Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ March 31st 2022,19:33:31 ) 'Driver notified us that he is unhappy with your last races strategy.'
'Driver canceled the contract with your team'.
Sponsors can, drivers should.
No
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#6 posted Mar 31st 2022, 20:13:10
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Quote ( Diogo Abdalla @ March 31st 2022,20:02:50 ) No need to be rude, it aint such a bad suggestion
I don't think it is a terrible suggestion at first glance, it's just when you start thinking about things you realize what would happen if it was implemented...
Though it sounds cool for drivers to have expectations and have attributes around that.
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#7 posted Mar 31st 2022, 20:28:59
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The manager has expectations.
It's not the rabbit that carries the rifle.
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#8 posted Mar 31st 2022, 20:45:24
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#9 posted Mar 31st 2022, 21:28:52
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I think it is a splended idea. Go for it!
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#10 posted Mar 31st 2022, 21:37:12
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Quote ( Diogo Abdalla @ March 31st 2022,19:48:43 ) struggling with results
I'm thinking in managers that are pushing for promotion and start to see they will fall short and want to keep the over inflated OA driver. Perhaps it wasn't the time for promotion yet and they should come to that conclusion a few races earlier and be "easier" on the driver's treatment.
Like less "pain" for longer would be more acceptable for the driver and depending also on his CHA/REP the period of DEMOT could be shortened.
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#11 posted Mar 31st 2022, 21:40:44
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This idea would 1) completely kill the option of developing a project driver, and 2) make dropping motivation nearly impossible.
I don't see how nerfing an entire strategy option within the game improves things.
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#12 posted Mar 31st 2022, 22:40:57
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Let's see real life:
Any Haas 2020-2021 Driver
Ferrari Drivers in 2020
LLH in 2022
Mclaren from 2013 till 2022
have you heard of any driver leaving by their own will?
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#13 posted Mar 31st 2022, 22:52:26
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ March 31st 2022,22:40:57 ) Let's see real life:
have you heard of any driver leaving by their own will?
In midseason, no.
Refusing an extension and leaving when their contract is up… yes. Often.
I like the project driver route, but it does seem ridiculous that you could have a driver who was too good for the level of your team and convince them to stay by sabotaging them or running your team’s finances into the ground.
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#14 posted Mar 31st 2022, 23:54:02
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Would be a good mechanic to introduce to deal with mangers expecting bad results being able to promise obscene bonuses they have no intention of paying. It makes sense for there to be negative repercussions when the driver has not received the compensation they expected.
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#15 posted Mar 31st 2022, 23:58:51
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 31st 2022,23:54:02 ) Would be a good mechanic to introduce to deal with mangers expecting bad results being able to promise obscene bonuses they have no intention of paying. It makes sense for there to be negative repercussions when the driver has not received the compensation they expected.
That should apply to TD´s aswell. 100% agree with that.
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Quote ( Christopher Delehanty @ March 31st 2022,22:52:26 ) Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ March 31st 2022,22:40:57 )
Let's see real life:
have you heard of any driver leaving by their own will?
In midseason, no.
Refusing an extension and leaving when their contract is up… yes. Often.
I like the project driver route, but it does seem ridiculous that you could have a driver who was too good for the level of your team and convince them to stay by sabotaging them or running your team’s finances into the ground.
Well the OP is proposing that the driver drops midseason.
If your driver is too good and he's ruining your finances then it is not a good driver. You, as a manager, are responsible for your team's finances, this is what GPRO is all about.
Too good, fire him!
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Those are some awfully big rabbits, Ken!
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ March 31st 2022,22:40:57 ) Let's see real life:
Any Haas 2020-2021 Driver
Ferrari Drivers in 2020
LLH in 2022
Mclaren from 2013 till 2022
have you heard of any driver leaving by their own will?
In real life I've never heard of anything close to this particular feature/strategy and quite a few other. But, I'm "with you", GPRO could get a little closer to real life/F1. :-)
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ April 1st 2022,00:22:26 ) Well the OP is proposing that the driver drops midseason.
I just used the examples I took from the sponsors' actions. It's about a driver's satisfaction and ways of making harder for this thing of inflating the thing (yes, the drivers are things in GPRO, unlike the Sponsors) and then burst it in a matter of a few races just because the plan went wrong. The driver will not slam the door overnight and you should get a few warnings and watch a satisfaction bar moving between green and red.
It went wrong? You pay now, at least a little more costly, or sweaty. The plan to undo the plan... will require another tool and for sure make another obsolete. Someone suggested the managers where already struggling, but not when they were going up. Yes, the higher you go the bigger the fall. Access your level and momentum better.
I'm not minding at all different views/suggestions from managers that know more things than I do and most of those things cannot be spoken. Can be end of season or contract, no problemo.
I just don't like how managers use drivers as things, there is got to be there some pride, or greed like the Sponsors.
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Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ March 31st 2022,19:33:31 ) 'Driver notified us that he is unhappy with your last races strategy.
'Driver canceled the contract with your team'
Sponsors can, drivers should
Nobody is forcing driver to sign contract with you. And nobody force you to sign this driver.
If you accept his conditions, then he must agree to follow your strategy...whatever it is.
I might do bad strategy with a reason. Ronnie Petterson would be able to write a novel about it...
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Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 1st 2022,19:34:04 ) Ronnie Petterson would be able to write a novel about it...
Unfortunatly he would not. RIP
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Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 1st 2022,19:34:04 )
Nobody is forcing driver to sign contract with you. And nobody force you to sign this driver.
If you accept his conditions, then he must agree to follow your strategy...whatever it is.
I might do bad strategy with a reason. Ronnie Petterson would be able to write a novel about it...
Mostly true, except once you've signed a driver they have to accept your contract extensions (within certain limits).
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Quote ( Christopher Delehanty @ April 2nd 2022,01:30:57 ) Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 1st 2022,19:34:04 )
Nobody is forcing driver to sign contract with you. And nobody force you to sign this driver.
If you accept his conditions, then he must agree to follow your strategy...whatever it is.
I might do bad strategy with a reason. Ronnie Petterson would be able to write a novel about it...
Mostly true, except once you've signed a driver they have to accept your contract extensions (within certain limits).
Wrong, the driver has no input into agreeing to a contract extension or not. The whole decision to extend the contract or not lies with the manager, if the driver is within OA limits.
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However, keep the pilot's satisfaction within reasonable limits. He also has a soul.
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