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Sotirios Troupas
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Old post #1 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:26:45 Quote 
I do not know how many years i will continue to play a game that violates the lows of maths! A percentage of average 50% (and above) to rain on the 3/4 of the race definitely does not mean only 10 laps of raining.If you want make this game more close to reality and if you want players to try startegies instead of doing the same things in every race (if its raining or not...... just copy numbers from tools etc etc ) take care of small details that matter.

PS: of course if someone wonders why you keep playing this #@#$#@ game i will answer to him i have stop playing seriously many years before (and paying ofc). Its only a 2 min habit that kils my logic every time like MOLD.
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Old post #2 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:30:52 Quote 
50% of rain means its 50% likely to have rain. Not how long it lasts :)
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Old post #3 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:33:11 Quote 
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Old post #4 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:33:11 (last edited Apr 19th 2022, 22:33:27 by Paul Brosnan) Quote 
50% of rain means its 50% likely to have rain. Not how long it lasts :)
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Old post #5 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:33:21 Quote 
Wants realism.

Plays game that has an aggregate qualifying that is at least 15 years out of date.

Lol
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Old post #6 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:34:07 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

A percentage of average 50% (and above) to rain on the 3/4 of the race definitely does not mean only 10 laps of raining.


If I flip a coin 80 times (the amount of laps in Serres) the coin won't land 40 times on Heads/Tails.

If you had races with thousands (or maybe even millions) of laps, then maybe you'd have exactly 50% of the laps wet! Sounds exciting! :P
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Old post #7 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:34:44 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

If you want make this game more close to reality a
How good are you at predicting the exact time rain will stop and start? We could do with you on the BBC.
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Old post #8 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:36:58 Quote 
It rained for 24/80 Laps by the way not 10.
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Old post #9 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:40:43 Quote 
those who went wrong cry. a prognosis is that .... prognosis. not even the best f1 teams have a meteorologist who can tell them exactly what is going to happen.
You have to put a section that is an altar and a church so that they can shed their tears.
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Old post #10 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:41:42 Quote 
It's not a bug, it's a feature. :)
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Old post #11 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:43:21 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

I do not know how many years i will continue to play a game that violates the lows of maths! A percentage of average 50% (and above) to rain on the 3/4 of the race definitely does not mean only 10 laps of raining.If you want make this game more close to reality and if you want players to try startegies instead of doing the same things in every race (if its raining or not...... just copy numbers from tools etc etc ) take care of small details that matter.



PS: of course if someone wonders why you keep playing this #@#$#@ game i will answer to him i have stop playing seriously many years before (and paying ofc). Its only a 2 min habit that kils my logic every time like MOLD.

Bye Bye
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Old post #12 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:44:03 Quote 
Weather bug! Love love love that song.

You put the boom-boom into my heart
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Old post #13 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:45:28 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

A percentage of average 50% (and above) to rain on the 3/4 of the race definitely does not mean only 10 laps of raining.If you want make this game more close to reality and if you want players to try startegies instead of doing the same things in every race (if its raining or not...... just copy numbers from tools etc etc ) take care of small details that matter.

Elite races finished in 1h 25min, 10 laps is about 50% of race time from that section of the weather prediction.

4th part of prediction was never activated.
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Old post #14 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:53:39 Quote 
there were 80 laps in 84 minutes, so 31.5 laps for every 30 minute interval.
According to Ur logic, there should have been around 16 laps of rain after 16 laps of dry, 3 times in the race.
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Old post #15 posted Apr 19th 2022, 22:54:01 Quote 
Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ April 19th 2022,22:41:42 )

It's not a bug, it's a feature. :)


Do you work at Microsoft?
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Old post #16 posted Apr 19th 2022, 23:12:39 Quote 
Given your own words;
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the laws of maths


... you simply love maths. As this game is all about probability calculation and statistics, the current amount of realism surely should be pulling you back to this most intriguing game over and over again. Ah, I see ... it did ;)

A wise man once said, it's only one in seventeen GP's per season!

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Old post #17 posted Apr 19th 2022, 23:14:32 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

If you want make this game more close to reality


I've seen so many F1 Races that had a 80% chance of rain and disappointed me when I was looking forward to some wet racing laps.
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Old post #18 posted Apr 20th 2022, 01:45:30 Quote 
You need to understand that it is not certainty but rather a probability of rain

If you have a chance of 99% of rain, if you run the race 100 times its likely 1 of the runs will be a dry race.

Although I do find it amusing that the lapped cars seem to be still racing on a dry track for a lap or two until they catch up to the lap the rain starts on which is a different issue.
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Old post #19 posted Apr 20th 2022, 09:33:18 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

If you want make this game more close to reality


Yes, I also read the games' description before joining. Should be added "in a parallel world".

99.99% of the players have to go to the casino once or twice a season. If you don't want that you'll have to continue to play the most of the rest of your life.
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Old post #20 posted Apr 20th 2022, 10:06:15 (last edited Apr 20th 2022, 10:06:42 by Graham Mercer) Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

A percentage of average 50% (and above) to rain on the 3/4 of the race definitely does not mean only 10 laps of raining

1. The race is based on Elite lapsed time
2. The third forecast period (1h-1h30m) started between lap 57 and lap 58
3. Rain started 10 laps later on lap 67 and continued raining for 13 laps until the race finished.

From the time of the third forecast period there was a 50%-60% CHANCE of rain which also means a 30%-40% chance of dry continuing, once the rain began (in this period) it continued until the end of the race.

There is nothing 'definite' regarding rain commencement, it is a probability.

You have been here on GPRO since Mar 27th, 2009, if you do not appreciate how the weather system works by now then yes you probably should move on.
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Old post #21 posted Apr 20th 2022, 10:50:06 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

play a game that violates the lows of maths


You do play this game on a computer right? And you do know that it's also a computer that generates the result right? However illogical (for you, me, players) the formula/method given to it, it's still math, cause that's how computers work... :D
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Old post #22 posted Apr 20th 2022, 13:25:04 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

If you want make this game more close to reality


Have you ever watched a weather forecast? When the sexy girl in tight dress tells you it will probably rain for a few minutes and it end up like a end of the days storm? The weather on the last race was totally close to reality!

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Old post #23 posted Apr 20th 2022, 14:56:58 Quote 
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ April 19th 2022,22:44:03 )

Weather bug! Love love love that song.

You put the boom-boom into my heart

Definitely a hit song! 🤣
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Old post #24 posted Apr 20th 2022, 15:35:19 Quote 
Quote ( Sotirios Troupas @ April 19th 2022,22:26:45 )

Its only a 2 min habit that kils my logic every time like MOLD.


Incredible :D
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Old post #25 posted Apr 20th 2022, 15:40:08 Quote 
I want a 'sexy girl' showing me her fronts and systems. A cute 'weather BUG'. A baby meme in the weather space? How about it Vald? :)
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Old post #26 posted Apr 20th 2022, 17:45:47 Quote 
Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ April 20th 2022,15:40:08 )

I want a 'sexy girl' showing me her fronts and systems. A cute 'weather BUG'. A baby meme in the weather space? How about it Vlad? :)


https://imgur.com/a/l0wEmbl


I think we should invest in this idea :) Now I feel better about the next race weather.
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Old post #27 posted Apr 20th 2022, 18:38:43 Quote 
It’s 50% because it will rain or it won’t rain, that’s 50:50
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Old post #28 posted Apr 20th 2022, 18:53:39 Quote 
Quote ( Krasen Belev @ April 20th 2022,17:45:47 )

Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ April 20th 2022,15:40:08 )

I want a 'sexy girl' showing me her fronts and systems. A cute 'weather BUG'. A baby meme in the weather space? How about it Vlad? :)


https://imgur.com/a/l0wEmbl


I think we should invest in this idea :) Now I feel better about the next race weather.



I second this..... how do we get this implemented?
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Old post #29 posted Apr 20th 2022, 18:55:45 Quote 
Personally I think the bigger rain bug is the fact that weather is lap# determinant....

For instance, when I was passing lapped cars, I noticed rain was still visualizing on their tires, but I was already out on a dry lap with dry tires, when they came around to start the lap I had just changed tires on - then they are no longer in the rain.... I think that should be addressed from a coding perspective.
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Old post #30 posted Apr 20th 2022, 21:28:06 Quote 
Quote ( Greg Starke @ April 20th 2022,18:55:45 )

Personally I think the bigger rain bug is the fact that weather is lap# determinant....

For instance, when I was passing lapped cars, I noticed rain was still visualizing on their tires, but I was already out on a dry lap with dry tires, when they came around to start the lap I had just changed tires on - then they are no longer in the rain.... I think that should be addressed from a coding perspective.

It's a know thing in the new race screen and is there because this time you were just too fast for them. You lapped them so they were a lap, maybe two laps down. Everybody gets the same wet laps, and thus the slower ones will be in the wet longer, or vice versa when it refers to a dry spell.
There's no coding that can rework that differently on different screens, other then that the whole basic coding would have to be adapted. Now all weather is lap based, not time based ;)
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