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#1 posted Sep 12th 2022, 14:51:46
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Hello everyone, Monza was my 2nd GP. According to the circuit info fuel consumption is very high. But it turns out that the race analysis gives me a consumption of 0.90 liters per kilometer, while Valencia gave me 1.01 liters per kilometer and, according to the circuit information, the consumption was average.
Can someone explain to me what could have happened?
greetings and thanks
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#2 posted Sep 12th 2022, 15:03:48
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I am not sure but maybe your driver technical insight and experience went up, also if you upgraded your car that should also have inpact of how much fuel is used per lap. Of course I don't know much about this game myself and I can be wrong. I hope it helps
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#3 posted Sep 12th 2022, 15:04:09
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maybe you should recheck your calculation for Valencia. when doing so, make sure you look at the "Fuel left" value in race analysis, which is percentage of the fuel left in the tank when the car entered the pits. note that this is percentage in relation to fuel tank capacity, and not the actual fuel that has been put in the tank.
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#4 posted Sep 12th 2022, 15:57:10
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The fuel use level for the track that is displayed in the track's profile gives you a general idea only, and is closer to a range than to an exact number of ltrs per kilometer. That means that while 2 tracks can be in the same level (for example, low), one can be at the top of the range, and the other at the bottom of it, showing a relatively significant difference.
With that in mind, and what Wolf already explained (always calculate fuel percentages based in tank capacity), you'll be able to make a decent estimation of fuel.
Welcome to the site, have fun and perhaps pick a mentor; it'll be easier and more fun if you do ;D
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#5 posted Sep 12th 2022, 15:57:17
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Clear risks and engine level can affect fuel consumption, so check the engine level and clear risks you used for those races. Also, each track has their own pattern of fuel consumption, that can be in between fuel consumption ranges (very low, low,..., very hhigh)
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#6 posted Sep 12th 2022, 16:01:56
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Quote ( Wilian Souza @ September 12th 2022,15:57:17 ) Clear risks
Are you sure about this, William?
Remember this is the newbie forum, and is meant to be kept as factually accurate as possible :)
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#7 posted Sep 12th 2022, 16:09:55
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The ingame help suggest that is very unlikely that a 300km race exceedes 280 liters. That means a consumption of 0.93 liters/km. As Wolf said, you should recheck your calculations for Valencia as 1.01 liters/km is way more than the suggestion of the game.
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#8 posted Sep 12th 2022, 16:23:39
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Quote ( Florencia Caro @ September 12th 2022,16:01:56 ) Quote ( Wilian Souza @ September 12th 2022,15:57:17 )
Clear risks
Are you sure about this, William?
Remember this is the newbie forum, and is meant to be kept as factually accurate as possible :)
I was told so since long ago... But a quick review on testing history brought me to one single testing where I tested car limits and found virtually no difference in fuel consumption compared with other testing... like, it spent 87 l in a 30 laps - car limits testing, while it had spent 15 l in a 5 lap - other priority testing.
Anyway, until I find more evidence on this subject, I always race using the same clear track risks, in order to have my estimations as accurate as possible, because I use low margins for refuelling. I've figure out Engine level and driver's experience have high impact on fuel consumption, but for the guy questioning fuel consumption at Monza, driver's experience isn't the factor if hee raced at Valencia and Monza with the same driver.
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Quote ( Wilian Souza @ September 12th 2022,16:23:39 ) I always race using the same clear track risks
Then how could you know that CT risks impact on consumption?
Only one race strategy feature impacts on consumption as far as I know.
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Thanks everyone for the replies and advice. In Valencia load a total of 342 liters. At the end of the 57-lap race, 29 liters remained. So 342-29= 313/ 57= 5.4912 liters per lap. Valencia has a length of 5.44km. So 5.4912/5.44 = 1.009 liters per KM. I did the same formula with monza.
If I'm doing something wrong please tell me!
Thank you
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Quote ( Francisco Montini @ September 12th 2022,18:44:43 ) Thanks everyone for the replies and advice. In Valencia load a total of 342 liters. At the end of the 57-lap race, 29 liters remained. So 342-29= 313/ 57= 5.4912 liters per lap. Valencia has a length of 5.44km. So 5.4912/5.44 = 1.009 liters per KM. I did the same account with monza. Voy a seguir los consejos que me dieron!
If I'm doing something wrong please tell me!
Thank you
Check your pit stops during the race -- did you use all of the fuel every time? Or was there fuel in the tank still when the driver stopped?
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#12 posted Sep 12th 2022, 18:50:34
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Quote ( Florencia Caro @ September 12th 2022,15:57:10 ) The fuel use level for the track that is displayed in the track's profile gives you a general idea only, and is closer to a range than to an exact number of ltrs per kilometer. That means that while 2 tracks can be in the same level (for example, low), one can be at the top of the range, and the other at the bottom of it, showing a relatively significant difference.
With that in mind, and what Wolf already explained (always calculate fuel percentages based in tank capacity), you'll be able to make a decent estimation of fuel.
Welcome to the site, have fun and perhaps pick a mentor; it'll be easier and more fun if you do ;D
Thanks, i will try do that
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#13 posted Sep 12th 2022, 18:51:29
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Quote ( Greg Tierney @ September 12th 2022,18:48:20 ) Quote ( Francisco Montini @ September 12th 2022,18:44:43 )
Thanks everyone for the replies and advice. In Valencia load a total of 342 liters. At the end of the 57-lap race, 29 liters remained. So 342-29= 313/ 57= 5.4912 liters per lap. Valencia has a length of 5.44km. So 5.4912/5.44 = 1.009 liters per KM. I did the same account with monza. Voy a seguir los consejos que me dieron!
If I'm doing something wrong please tell me!
Thank you
Check your pit stops during the race -- did you use all of the fuel every time? Or was there fuel in the tank still when the driver stopped?
both pitstop was with 0% of fuel.
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#14 posted Sep 12th 2022, 19:40:03
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Quote ( Francisco Montini @ September 12th 2022,18:44:43 ) Thanks everyone for the replies and advice. In Valencia load a total of 342 liters. At the end of the 57-lap race, 29 liters remained. So 342-29= 313/ 57= 5.4912 liters per lap. Valencia has a length of 5.44km. So 5.4912/5.44 = 1.009 liters per KM. I did the same formula with monza.
If I'm doing something wrong please tell me!
Thank you
Race distance in Valencia is 310.1 km; in Monza it's 306.1 km. You said you've spent 319 l of fuel in Valencia. That´s impossible, because I have as reference 236 l for Valencia (with lvl 2 engine and 57 driver's experience) and 261 l for Monza (with lvl 1 engine and 34 driver's experience), which are one of the highest consumptions you can get. Do you have GPRO Organizer? Sebastian Boulanger's app can calculate the total race's fuel consumption for you; if you do it manually, you should take this into account:
Quote ( Greg Tierney @ September 12th 2022,18:48:20 ) Quote ( Francisco Montini @ September 12th 2022,18:44:43 )
Check your pit stops during the race -- did you use all of the fuel every time? Or was there fuel in the tank still when the driver stopped?
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#15 posted Sep 12th 2022, 20:00:43
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313 litres spent for Valencia GP sounds like a lot of fuel, more than anyone could have ever spent. Specially when the ingame help says that you should not expect to spend more than 280 liters for a 300km race. According to that ingame help, for a circuit like Valencia (310.1km) spent fuel should not be more than 290 liters. Just in case try to recalculate your fuel spent. There is probably some calculation wrong or input number wrong.
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ok there I understood what my mistake was. In Valencia, 114 liters were not added at the pit stop, but x liters were added until completing 114
Thanks to everyone
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you pitted because tyres were worn down and you still had fuel left.
17% fuel left after first stint and 16% after second stint.
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#18 posted Sep 12th 2022, 21:07:00
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You had 17% and 16% fuel left once you made those stops!
You need to take that fuel out when making your calculations. Also, there are things changing during the race (weather wise) all the time, which might affect your tyre wear and fuel consumption even during the same race. As you can see, that happened, as your tyres wore more and a bit more fuel was used. Try and figure out why!
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#19 posted Sep 12th 2022, 21:07:29
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Quote ( Wolf Roiter @ September 12th 2022,21:06:20 ) you pitted because tyres were worn down and you still had fuel left.
17% fuel left after first stint and 16% after second stint. so 31 litres and 29 litres.
yeah, I just realized, thanks!
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#20 posted Sep 12th 2022, 21:09:36
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problem solved :)
you should also recalculate fuel consumption for Monza, you might have done the same mistake there.
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#21 posted Sep 13th 2022, 10:03:26
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Quote ( Wolf Roiter @ September 12th 2022,21:06:20 ) you pitted because tyres were worn down and you still had fuel left.
17% fuel left after first stint and 16% after second stint.
how do you know this information?
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#22 posted Sep 13th 2022, 10:24:37
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Quote ( Farkhad Rakhimzhanov @ September 13th 2022,10:03:26 ) how do you know this information?
Francisco copy/pasted it from race analysis. apparently he edited the post afterwards and removed it
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