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Old post #3811 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:00:19 Quote 
As Michael said, that limit is for contract extensions. You can't extend the driver contract in amateur if the driver OA is over 110, but you can have over 110 OA as long as you still have races in your driver's contract.
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Old post #3812 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:06:41 Quote 
Also, drivers that exceed the maximum OA are only reset in Rookie at the end of the season (so any drivers above 85 will be lost)
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Old post #3813 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:14:08 Quote 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ December 14th 2018,22:00:19 )

As Michael said, that limit is for contract extensions. You can't extend the driver contract in amateur if the driver OA is over 110, but you can have over 110 OA as long as you still have races in your driver's contract.


Yes, but it shows 17 races contract length. Isn.t it the maximum number of contract length?

I just dont get it. And this is the new season. I read it in Newbie Guide if the OA of the driver more than permited OA (in this case Amateur limited at 110 OA), when season reset, we will lose the driver as well.

Newbie Guide; DRIVER;
As mentioned in the money section above, at the end of every season Rookie is completely reset. This includes your driver where, if your driver has over 85 OA (Overall level) you will lose him also. This mean a LOT of managers are without drivers come season start, meaning it is a mad scramble in the drivers market with the best promotion-capable drivers receiving in excess of 40 offers. Not good – and you want to avoid being involved in this at all costs.

But i think, it does not really matter. Greater OA is not always better they said. Thank you Ahmed.
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Old post #3814 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:15:47 Quote 
Quote ( Constantin Heller @ December 14th 2018,22:06:41 )

Also, drivers that exceed the maximum OA are only reset in Rookie at the end of the season (so any drivers above 85 will be lost)


Oh, i dont think it was just for rookie. Sorry. I got it.
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Old post #3815 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:15:49 Quote 
Quote ( Rahmat Febrizal @ December 14th 2018,22:14:08 )

Yes, but it shows 17 races contract length. Isn.t it the maximum number of contract length?
He signed the driver last season and immediately re-signed for 17 races
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Old post #3816 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:17:28 Quote 
Quote ( Rahmat Febrizal @ December 14th 2018,22:14:08 )

Newbie Guide; DRIVER;
As mentioned in the money section above, at the end of every season Rookie is completely reset. This includes your driver where, if your driver has over 85 OA (Overall level) you will lose him also. This mean a LOT of managers are without drivers come season start, meaning it is a mad scramble in the drivers market with the best promotion-capable drivers receiving in excess of 40 offers. Not good – and you want to avoid being involved in this at all costs.

It only applies to rookie level where everthing gets reset. In amateur you can extend the contract and actually can have 17+17 races with your driver when he's not over 110 OA, then in 34 races you'll have him no matter what OA he has (except relegating to rookie, then you'll lose him obviously).
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Old post #3817 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:17:49 (last edited Dec 14th 2018, 22:22:15 by Michael Jones) Quote 
Quote ( Rahmat Febrizal @ December 14th 2018,22:14:08 )

Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ December 14th 2018,22:00:19 )

As Michael said, that limit is for contract extensions. You can't extend the driver contract in amateur if the driver OA is over 110, but you can have over 110 OA as long as you still have races in your driver's contract.

I just dont get it. And this is the new season. I read it in Newbie Guide if the OA of the driver more than permited OA (in this case Amateur limited at 110 OA), when season reset, we will lose the driver as well.



Newbie Guide; DRIVER;
As mentioned in the money section above, at the end of every season Rookie is completely reset. This includes your driver where, if your driver has over 85 OA (Overall level) you will lose him also. This mean a LOT of managers are without drivers come season start, meaning it is a mad scramble in the drivers market with the best promotion-capable drivers receiving in excess of 40 offers. Not good – and you want to avoid being involved in this at all costs.

But i think, it does not really matter. Greater OA is not always better they said. Thank you Ahmed.


When the driver was 110 OA or just under he had driver for 17 races he then extended it for another 17 races ..Reset of driver is in Rookie only .
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Old post #3818 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:18:15 Quote 
Quote ( Michael Jones @ December 14th 2018,21:59:28 )


He cant extend drivers contract if over 110 but nothing to stop OA going higher in Amateur.


But the contract length still 17 races. And this is the first race after season reset.
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Old post #3819 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:19:02 Quote 
Quote ( Rahmat Febrizal @ December 14th 2018,22:14:08 )

Newbie Guide; DRIVER;
As mentioned in the money section above, at the end of every season Rookie is completely reset. This includes your driver where, if your driver has over 85 OA (Overall level) you will lose him also. This mean a LOT of managers are without drivers come season start, meaning it is a mad scramble in the drivers market with the best promotion-capable drivers receiving in excess of 40 offers. Not good – and you want to avoid being involved in this at all costs.


As I said, this part only refers to Rookie groups, not to Amateur or higher.

Also yes, the maximum length of a single contract is 17 races, but you can have a second contract "in store" for when the current one runs out, giving you a maximum of 17+17 races. So it's quite possible that he hired the driver for 17 races before the first race of last season at maybe 100 OA, and then extended his contract for another 17 races while his OA is still low enough. That new contract would now have started, even though it was signed a season ago.
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Old post #3820 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:22:12 Quote 
Quote ( Dominik Karda @ December 14th 2018,22:15:49 )

He signed the driver last season and immediately re-signed for 17 races


Hmmm... I got it. Its my first race in Amateur. I still dont have enough experience on this class. Anyway thankyou for your answer.
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Old post #3821 posted Dec 14th 2018, 22:24:53 Quote 
You're welcome, Rahmat. Feel free to ask anything you wonder and good luck in the upcoming races :)
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Old post #3822 posted Dec 15th 2018, 03:05:04 Quote 
Max Watson has just broken the Rafaela qualifying record by more than 4 seconds. I'm sure this is NOT a bug... but was this the intended effect of the new PHA matching or did the change overshoot its target here?
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Old post #3823 posted Dec 15th 2018, 06:00:17 Quote 
Season Amateur
S68, R2
Today Jonas Trumpa 59.994s

Season Personal
S46, R5, E
Mar 6th, 2015 Florencia Caro 1:00.008s
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Looks like Ama managers are faster than I was at Elite :D
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Old post #3824 posted Dec 15th 2018, 07:19:42 Quote 
Flo the n00b 😆
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Old post #3825 posted Dec 15th 2018, 09:20:12 Quote 
There is problem with energy recovering. I got 5% since last race, and I believe It should be about 3 more.
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Old post #3826 posted Dec 15th 2018, 10:03:10 Quote 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ December 15th 2018,03:05:04 )

Max Watson has just broken the Rafaela qualifying record by more than 4 seconds. I'm sure this is NOT a bug... but was this the intended effect of the new PHA matching or did the change overshoot its target here?


Well, depends on how you define a bug. PHA works as it has always worked and PHA matching works, but PHA works in a slightly weird way in ovals and it makes PHA matching also weird. It was supposed to get changed, but apparently it was forgotten.
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Old post #3827 posted Dec 15th 2018, 14:48:19 (last edited Dec 15th 2018, 15:01:27 by Stuart Foster) Quote 
The PHA effect is rather huge on this track huh!

Jukka, is the extra power more noticeable here cos the nature of Ovals being that they are so power dominant. I appreciate if this is some kind of foby, but it stands to reason that if you've got that P besde your car, its going to be a lot more significant here than say somewhere like Spa, which is also a P dominant track, though has a lot of other high characteristics too.

Or do you think maybe there needs be some kind of toning down a bit? I only say that cos I just looked my lap time compared to my group rivals...I am nearly 7 seconds up the road from the dude who was about on par with me last race where we were both not matching the track character. I mean, he was not even a tenth behind me, and now i'm like halfway round the first corner basically...and 11 seconds ahead of the next guy...seems quite big? I know there will be some mistake noise etc in there, specially if that guy used a limits push and got the full force of DM (maybe both times) but it looks quite...OTT. If you think that's normal then its fine but to me this PHA shift looks quite....punchy? Specially around here! I'm not complaining but its only on this track really that it suddenly seems extortionately noticeable (!).








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Old post #3828 posted Dec 15th 2018, 15:20:41 Quote 
I didn't say it's normal. PHA is treated differently on ovals. Without the new PHA matching thing, it wasn't really noticeable. However, PHA goes to matching effect calculation after this treatment, and it made it work in an unintended way. As I said, it was supposed to get altered, but it was forgotten.
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Old post #3829 posted Dec 15th 2018, 15:26:41 (last edited Dec 15th 2018, 15:28:24 by Jasper Coosemans) Quote 
I don't have a Power car either and my Q1 was quite decent (not at the front of Pro, but that's because my driver is below par).

Avus is also an extremely power-dominated track, and I don't think there were such extreme differences there. So I think what you are seeing is not just PHA but perhaps also a wrong car setup?

Edit: ah, it's specific to ovals and I guess Avus is not considered to be one
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Old post #3830 posted Dec 17th 2018, 21:23:57 Quote 
Quote ( Arkadiusz Nicewicz @ December 15th 2018,09:20:12 )

There is problem with energy recovering. I got 5% since last race, and I believe It should be about 3 more.


jukka anything in this as i reckon what i gained back until now is a little lower than expected.
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Old post #3831 posted Dec 18th 2018, 10:25:30 Quote 
My personal best qualifying time record is not updated in the "track details" page, but my teammate's record is.

Think this could be a bug.
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Old post #3832 posted Dec 18th 2018, 10:59:55 Quote 
Sometimes on the main menu I am not able to click my driver's name or the "Training" submenu. The "Contract" link works just fine. The box is in the default position, so all the way at the top. If I move the entire box to another position all the links work.
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Old post #3833 posted Dec 22nd 2018, 00:07:32 Quote 
/gb/LapChart.asp

When hovering over a name to highlight the line that belongs to it, it doesn't highlight the first 20 laps. When I click the name to make it disappear, and then click to make it appear again, the first 20 laps stay permanently highlighted.

When looking at lapcharts in other groups, it's the same problem but with a different number of un-highlighted laps (seems to be 14 laps in most, if not all groups except my own).
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Old post #3834 posted Dec 22nd 2018, 00:11:48 Quote 
Working normally for me. Maybe clearing the cache could help?
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Old post #3835 posted Dec 22nd 2018, 00:20:10 (last edited Dec 22nd 2018, 00:29:59 by Mike Bennett) Quote 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ December 22nd 2018,00:07:32 )

/gb/LapChart.asp

When hovering over a name to highlight the line that belongs to it, it doesn't highlight the first 20 laps. When I click the name to make it disappear, and then click to make it appear again, the first 20 laps stay permanently highlighted.

When looking at lapcharts in other groups, it's the same problem but with a different number of un-highlighted laps (seems to be 14 laps in most, if not all groups except my own).


I make you almost right Jasper...but it depends, for me it is the first 15 laps either they are highlighted OR they are not !

edit , now it is the first 13/14 laps !


add edit,
there are smaller fish to fry then this :)
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Old post #3836 posted Dec 22nd 2018, 00:34:55 Quote 
Quote ( Constantin Heller @ December 22nd 2018,00:11:48 )

Working normally for me. Maybe clearing the cache could help?

Cache refresh doesn't fix it.

Quote ( Mike Bennett @ December 22nd 2018,00:20:10 )

add edit,
there are smaller fish to fry then this :)


Lol yes. :P I reported it anyway because it used to work fine for me, and I'm still using the same system and browser (Firefox).
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Old post #3837 posted Dec 22nd 2018, 02:40:28 Quote 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ December 22nd 2018,00:34:55 )

Quote ( Constantin Heller @ December 22nd 2018,00:11:48 )

Working normally for me. Maybe clearing the cache could help?

Cache refresh doesn't fix it.

Quote ( Mike Bennett @ December 22nd 2018,00:20:10 )

add edit,
there are smaller fish to fry then this :)


Lol yes. :P I reported it anyway because it used to work fine for me, and I'm still using the same system and browser (Firefox)


I have moved on Jasper ..sorry you will have to just come to peace with it :)
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Old post #3838 posted Dec 22nd 2018, 11:35:04 (last edited Dec 22nd 2018, 11:42:41 by Jukka Sireni) Quote 
Looks like a Firefox bug. In Chrome it works fine. I tried several versions of highcharts scripts, but nothing seemed to work. I also looked at inspector what happens to html when you hover and both in Firefox and Chrome the changes seem to be the same.

EDIT: Yeah, worked perfectly in Firefox 63.
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Old post #3839 posted Jan 4th 2019, 09:10:19 (last edited Jan 4th 2019, 09:32:23 by Stefano Mana) Quote 
Hi all

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Old post #3840 posted Jan 10th 2019, 16:46:39 (last edited Jan 10th 2019, 16:50:01 by Mike Bennett) Quote 
Something very strange is happening in Rookie 156 ...the spacing and the position order is all messed up or just missing !

Link:- /gb/Qualify12Standings.asp?Group=Rookie%20-%20156



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