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Old post #4021 posted Mar 19th 2019, 00:01:44 Quote 
Qualify 2 / Race start Temp: 41°C
Start - 0h30m Temp: 42°-45°
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Old post #4022 posted Mar 19th 2019, 00:40:10 Quote 
Quote ( Stefan Olofsson @ March 19th 2019,00:01:44 )

Qualify 2 / Race start Temp: 41°C
Start - 0h30m Temp: 42°-45°

I've seen several dozens of forecasts with first half hour min temp +1ºc from Q2 temp, Stefan; I do not think it's a bug.
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Old post #4023 posted Mar 19th 2019, 00:56:31 Quote 
1 degree is not big difference and like Florecia said it's not a bug.
I think I've seen 2 or even 3 degrees difference.
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Old post #4024 posted Mar 19th 2019, 01:11:00 Quote 
Quote ( George Togas @ March 19th 2019,00:56:31 )

1 degree is not big difference and like Florecia said it's not a bug.
I think I've seen 2 or even 3 degrees difference.


Race 1 & 2 this season had +2ºC from Q2. Nothing uncommon there: +1ºC occurs roughly 20% & +2ºC roughly 10% of races (no +3ºC found in my data)

Max temp first 30 mins being less than Q2 are far less frequent (only found 3 cases) but does occur too
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Old post #4025 posted Mar 19th 2019, 13:25:46 Quote 
Is this a bug?

/hu/Stats.asp?type=bestcars&Page=1&sort=&slFilte... 101. Tibor Szuromi Master - 4

/hu/Stats.asp?type=bestcars&Page=2&sort=&slFilte... 106. Tibor Szuromi Master - 4
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Old post #4026 posted Mar 19th 2019, 13:55:43 Quote 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ March 19th 2019,13:25:46 )

Is this a bug?

/hu/Stats.asp?type=bestcars&Page=1&sort=&slFilte... 101. Tibor Szuromi Master - 4

/hu/Stats.asp?type=bestcars&Page=2&sort=&slFilte... 106. Tibor Szuromi Master - 4


It seems to be that all of you from 101 till 106 and maybe 107 have the exact same car level and thus you are all tied on P101.

Bit when you go to the second page, each one needs its own number thus you are sorted by group order.

That kind of explains it but does not justify it.
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Old post #4027 posted Mar 19th 2019, 14:01:39 Quote 
Eduardo Tx.

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Old post #4028 posted Mar 20th 2019, 03:22:14 Quote 
This past race I had a random and came into the pits to get it fixed (on lap 55). The commentary provided on the old race viewer was that "There seems to be a problem with the engine of George Slater which is being inspected in the pits". This was contradicted by my race analysis however, that listed the problem as "One of the wheels seemed to be loose and had to be fixed".

Now my understanding of the commentary provided by the old race viewer is that it depicts what the race engine thinks. So did the race engine "think" I had a engine issue even if I in fact did not?
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Old post #4029 posted Mar 20th 2019, 06:51:27 (last edited Mar 20th 2019, 06:52:45 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( George Slater @ March 20th 2019,03:22:14 )

The commentary provided on the old race viewer was that "There seems to be a problem with the engine of George Slater which is being inspected in the pits". This was contradicted by my race analysis however, that listed the problem as "One of the wheels seemed to be loose and had to be fixed".

This is a known feature. The Murray Walker of GPRO sometimes provides commentary on events he thinks is happening, but the actual events become clear only after race in analysis.


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Old post #4030 posted Mar 27th 2019, 08:39:18 Quote 
<span class="screen-reader-text">(W)</span>


This screen-reader-text span to indicate worn tyres in race analysis seems to be missing on the in-laps.
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Old post #4031 posted Apr 5th 2019, 18:44:44 Quote 
Right now it is possible to train staff and upgrade facilities. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can normally do that after qualifying is closed.

It also makes no sense as they affect your race yet your race is already being generated.
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Old post #4032 posted Apr 5th 2019, 19:03:35 Quote 
As far as I know it always was like that George; could even train driver if you didn't already.
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Old post #4033 posted Apr 5th 2019, 19:58:01 Quote 
only take effect after update iirc
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Old post #4034 posted Apr 5th 2019, 21:43:28 Quote 
Quote ( Mick Ridley @ April 5th 2019,19:58:01 )

only take effect after update iirc


Then it makes no sense to apply.
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Old post #4035 posted Apr 5th 2019, 22:16:29 (last edited Apr 5th 2019, 22:17:12 by George Slater) Quote 
Quote ( Mick Ridley @ April 5th 2019,19:58:01 )

only take effect after update iirc


Yeah, that is the only thing that makes sense given when the race is calculated and that is the weird part. I guess they would also take effect in the post-race update though.

I guess I just never noticed as I never tried.
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Old post #4036 posted Apr 5th 2019, 22:20:17 Quote 
Quote ( George Slater @ April 5th 2019,22:16:29 )

guess I just never noticed as I never tried.


Can imagine that. I only noticed cause I forgot to train driver once..
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Old post #4037 posted Apr 5th 2019, 23:34:27 Quote 
Just a minor error.
When electronics fail/smoke the message displayed in race analysis is
The electronics of the car hanged up

It should be
The electronics of the car hung up

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Old post #4038 posted Apr 6th 2019, 00:08:04 Quote 
Quote ( Graham Mercer @ April 5th 2019,23:34:27 )

Just a minor error.

The electronics of the car hanged up
It should be
The electronics of the car hung up


Relax my friend. Nothing to get hung up about :)
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Old post #4039 posted Apr 6th 2019, 00:14:10 Quote 
Quote ( Martin Britain @ April 6th 2019,00:08:04 )

Quote ( Graham Mercer @ April 5th 2019,23:34:27 )

Just a minor error.

The electronics of the car hanged up
It should be
The electronics of the car hung up


Relax my friend. Nothing to get hung up about :)

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Old post #4040 posted Apr 6th 2019, 16:41:08 Quote 
Quote ( Graham Mercer @ April 5th 2019,23:34:27 )

Just a minor error.
When electronics fail/smoke the message displayed in race analysis is
The electronics of the car hanged up

It should be
The electronics of the car hung up


Are we 100% sure on this? I've read some mixed opinions on the subject, so wanted to double check before I change it.
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Old post #4041 posted Apr 6th 2019, 16:54:52 Quote 
According to Merriam-Webster, 'hanged' should only be used in the sense of a person being sentenced to death by hanging.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/hung-or-hanged
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Old post #4042 posted Apr 6th 2019, 16:59:32 Quote 
LYNCH THE HIGHLY WORN ELECTRONICS
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Old post #4043 posted Apr 6th 2019, 20:23:33 Quote 
Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ April 6th 2019,16:41:08 )

Are we 100% sure on this?

Yes
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Old post #4044 posted Apr 6th 2019, 20:25:03 Quote 
Quote ( Josh Clark @ April 6th 2019,20:23:33 )

Yes
Yes.
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Old post #4045 posted Apr 6th 2019, 22:10:47 (last edited Apr 6th 2019, 22:30:08 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ April 6th 2019,16:54:52 )

According to Merriam-Webster, 'hanged' should only be used in the sense of a person being sentenced to death by hanging.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/hung-or-hanged


Are you absolutely sure about hat ? Let's see then...

Hanged and hung were used interchangeably for hundreds of years, although over time the one from the irregular verb (hung) eventually became the more common one. Hanged retained its position when used to refer to death by hanging, possibly due to being favored by judges who were passing a sentence. However, both forms are commonly found, and both are commonly found used in either sense.


The distinction between hanged and hung is not an especially useful one (although a few commentators claim otherwise). It is, however, a simple one and certainly easy to remember. Therein lies its popularity.

so one may be more popular, doesn't make the other wrong.

Observing the popular distinction between 'hanged' and 'hung' will not make you a better writer, but it will spare you the annoyance of being corrected for having done something that is not wrong.




Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ April 6th 2019,16:41:08 )

Are we 100% sure on this? I've read some mixed opinions on the subject, so wanted to double check before I change it.


So to summarize: Even when "hung" is more commonly used for inanimate objects, it's not wrong as such to say "hanged"

Only thing there is that some "language-police" may come because they have an opinion of their perceived correctness, therefore you might save some time by making the distinction. (and say: "hung")


5000 years from now there may be people who haven't even heard about a mysterious word "hanged", but for now it's not wrong to use it, even if some people are quite hung up with this matter :)
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Old post #4046 posted Apr 6th 2019, 22:56:56 (last edited Apr 6th 2019, 22:58:19 by Roland Postle) Quote 
I don't think I've ever heard a native English speaker over the age of 8 say "hanged" without meaning the execution variety. It's just one of those fiddly nuances of the language that there are far too many of. It *is* pretty common to hear non-natives use 'hanged' instead of 'hung', and it's easy to understand so maybe it'll make a comeback in our internet-globalised world.


What's always bothered me more is whether it should be "The electronics of the car hung" ie. no 'up'? Or maybe "The electronics of the car suffered a hang". Rather than a connection being hung up (radio to the pits maybe), it seems to refer to onboard microprocessors becoming unresponsive due to looping or crashing and in that context an 'up' is usually not used (even though it may derive originally from mainframes appearing to hang up the connection to their terminal when they go unresponsive).
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Old post #4047 posted Apr 6th 2019, 23:24:48 Quote 
As we say: people are hanged, pictures are hung.

Personally, I wouldn't use hang/hung to describe electronics.
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Old post #4048 posted Apr 7th 2019, 00:01:14 Quote 
Quote ( Brad Marshall @ April 6th 2019,23:24:48 )

people are hanged


some people are hung
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Old post #4049 posted Apr 7th 2019, 00:03:22 Quote 
"About us" section lists Chris Whiting as "English Consultant". Seems he has work to do :P
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Old post #4050 posted Apr 7th 2019, 09:30:15 Quote 
Why cant it be something along the lines of.

The electronics of the car had a processor fault.

Or like Leclercs car in last race

The electronics of the car had a short circuit in a control unit
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