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#31 posted May 24th 2008, 11:54:31
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Quote ( Vancea Adrian @ May 24th 2008,10:46:23 )
chris, have you seen the last season and how kobe played???
Of course i have, but one season playing more like a team player does not make up for the crap he has caused in the past in my opinion.
I have never said anywhere he is a bad player, he is just not the sort of guy i would want on my team.
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#32 posted May 24th 2008, 12:13:11
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im sorry but there are just better players than kobe
cmon people
youve got
Tracy McGrady
Steve Nash
Allen Iverson
Dirk Nowitzki
just to name a few
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but u not wanting him on your team does not make his talents diminish, does not lower the fact that, he is a candidate for the playoffs mvp, and definetely does not lower the fact that the way he has played, and the team played, they deserve to win
and celtics have a good team, good players
that is why I say lakers-celtics final
and neil, who of the guys u just said is still a candidate for the finals?
by the way, i am no kobe fan but i can certainly accept that he is goood, HE IS GOOOOOOOOOOD
the best players left in the playoffs are Kobe, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan , these are players that can change the course of any game
i would have loved it if Ray Allen would be in that list, but with the way he is playing, not being very efficient from the floor ... shooting 3s was his bussiness after Reggie Miller left the game, but that was when he was playing for the supersonics
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#34 posted May 25th 2008, 13:01:01
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im not saying that kobe isnt good
im saying that kobe isnt the best out therre in my opinion
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maybe, but he is still out there, having a shot at the playoffs
but i hope celtics get it, for old times sake :P
though i feel lakers deserve it more
and neil, u have the same hair i had an year ago :PPPP
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#36 posted May 25th 2008, 13:17:58
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haha mint
hmm lakers do deserve it as they have played as a team
i feel its not over for san antonio yet
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with the spurs it's far from over
they are good at getting their heads in the game when they need it most
manu ginobili had a great performance last game, 30 points, awesone
and the candidates for the mvp this year are:
lebron james, kevin garnett, chris paul and kobe bryant
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#38 posted May 26th 2008, 18:32:42
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Quote ( Vancea Adrian @ May 26th 2008,18:18:10 )
and the candidates for the mvp this year are:
lebron james, kevin garnett, chris paul and kobe bryant
Which MVP would that be...
Becuase Kobe already won the MVP, and Paul and James are already out of the playoffs :S
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#39 posted May 26th 2008, 18:51:55
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kevin garnett was defensive player of the year
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#40 posted May 26th 2008, 22:22:38
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i just wanted to point out the mvp candidates for this year
cuz kobe and garnett were the only ones left in the playoffs
and thus, supporting the ideea that a lakers - celtics final is at hand
i know kobe got it, it was just a reminder
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#41 posted May 26th 2008, 23:17:44
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it'll be lakers-pistons final with kobe scoring 30+ points and 10+assists.
i am a pistons fan btw, but any1 who says kobe isnt the best player to play in the nba is a lier. =)
COME ON YOU PISTONS
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#42 posted May 27th 2008, 09:12:46
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Quote ( Ben Sampson @ May 26th 2008,23:17:44 )
but any1 who says kobe isnt the best player to play in the nba
if u are talking about his whole career
i respectfully have to disagree
there is Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq, Julius Erving, Elgin Baylor, Hakeem Olajuwon ...
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#43 posted May 27th 2008, 11:04:13
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Quote ( Vancea Adrian @ May 27th 2008,09:12:46 )
if u are talking about his whole career
i respectfully have to disagree
In Jordan, bird's carrer the players were no were near the standard they are today.
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Quote ( Vancea Adrian @ May 27th 2008,09:12:46 )
if u are talking about his whole career
i respectfully have to disagree
there is Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq, Julius Erving, Elgin Baylor, Hakeem Olajuwon ...
i agree with some, but give me the permission to desegree with some names here (Shaq??? what the hell?)...just say:
JORDAN ;)
Kobe is great... but he will never reach the magic and excellence of MJ!!
and guys...it's not a question of career points or titles...it's all the rest!! what is "all the rest"?? ...just watch the videos of MJ!
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ben, i respectfully have to disagree, again
jordan played till 99, he had a pause, he won in 95-96 season, he was top scorer
do you really think the last 10 years changed the nba so much?
and if so, please explain yourself in more detail
playing defensively or on ofense was the same 30 years ago, not 10 years ago, 30
so the only thing that might have changed is maybe the overall value of the players in the nba, but in the last 10 years, maybe, maybe, a very small increase
and last but not least, MJ was the one that made basketball more popular, with his talent, Bird was another one, not kobe, sorry
and about shaq, i say he is in top 15, maybe even 10, not because he had the best average on shooting, but because he is big (the biggest) , and he was unguardable for a long time, now he is old, and what u see is not what he was able to do in his youth
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#46 posted May 27th 2008, 19:56:02
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Go Lakers!!!
Just imagine if Bynum was playing, nobody would have even came close to beating the Lakers in the playoffs
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#47 posted May 27th 2008, 19:58:26
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is here fans off Warriors and Celtics?
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#48 posted May 27th 2008, 20:03:33
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if bynum was not to play, maybe pau would have ended up to the lakers
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ok, that last post came out wrong
if bynum was to play, maybe pau would not have ended up to the lakers
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#50 posted May 28th 2008, 23:23:33
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Quote ( Johnny Williams @ May 27th 2008,19:56:02 )
Just imagine if Bynum was playing, nobody would have even came close to beating the Lakers in the playoffs
He is not that sort of player where he makes that much of a difference to them....they have 2 superstars, plus Odom and a ton of roleplayers.
Watching the game last night, i think this might be the year when the machine that is the spurs, runs out of gas.
They just dont have the necessary personnel to take on a team with as much depth as the Lakers.
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#51 posted May 28th 2008, 23:34:08
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I agree, the match was nice to see, but also the lakers seem more motivated, so another + from them
if manu is neutralised, i think the lakers will get the next game
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#52 posted May 28th 2008, 23:35:00
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Although, i do think Brent Barry was fouled at the end by Derek Fisher and i felt it was pretty damn obvious too :/
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#53 posted May 29th 2008, 03:19:46
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Quote ( Chris Carter @ May 28th 2008,23:35:00 )
Brent Barry was fouled at the end by Derek Fisher
u r right chris, and the referees should have given it, cuz it was in san antonio, so they were at home too
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#55 posted May 29th 2008, 17:45:36
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since first game i had a vision that Celtics will win in playoffs.
GO CELTICS
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#56 posted May 29th 2008, 18:59:48
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Quote ( Vancea Adrian @ May 29th 2008,17:43:32 )
u r right chris, and the referees should have given it, cuz it was in san antonio, so they were at home too
David Stern has told the refs to favor the Celtics and Lakers, since he knows that the NBA will get more revenue from a final between these 2 teams.
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#57 posted May 30th 2008, 07:31:00
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Quote ( Chris Carter @ May 29th 2008,18:59:48 )
David Stern has told the refs to favor the Celtics and Lakers, since he knows that the NBA will get more revenue from a final between these 2 teams.
I hope not, but this theory can be true
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#58 posted May 30th 2008, 09:56:30
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david stern is a bad person. he has made so many restrictions.
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#59 posted May 30th 2008, 10:06:28
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Spurs refuse to blame loss on refs... that´s ridiculous !!!!!
They can certainly complain about that final, fateful play.
They had pretty reasonable justification to moan about the whistle that wasn't blown.
But you know what?
The San Antonio Spurs passed.
The Spurs resisted Tuesday night (game 4) when presented with yet another chance to fume about the presence of the referee they dread seeing more than any other, presumably because they know the truth.
Which is to say that they've had too many promising opportunities in these Western Conference finals, too many to bray about one non-call from Joey Crawford, no matter how crucial the timing. The Spurs are down 3-1 to the Los Angeles Lakers because that's where they belong.
What the nba says about that ?????
You could make a strong case that the Spurs shouldn't even have been in the position to tie or win this Game 4 on their final possession. Television replays indicate that Fisher's shot with 6.9 seconds to go GRAZED THE RIM before bouncing out of bounds off Robert Horry's leg, meaning that the Lakers should have had a NEW shot clock instead of asking Kobe Bryant to hurry a fadeaway jumper after the ensuing timeout. A NEW SHOT CLOCK would have forced the Spurs to foul Bryant (assuming no turnover) as opposed to getting the ball back off Bryant's miss to draw up a potential game-winning play.
What the nba say about that ?
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#60 posted May 30th 2008, 10:39:33
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