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Stari post #270 objavljeno 4 Tra 2012, 23:56:16 Citat 
Quote ( Sion Francis @ April 4th 2012,12:35:56 )

This debate makes me weep for humanity, it really does...and not for the reasons most people think.

There seems to be a general smugness surrounding those who think the answer must lie in BODMAS that they know the answer and that anyone who thinks differently is wrong. This is the bit that annoys me; the assumption that what you learnt in year 8 maths must always apply. That assumption is wrong.

Obviously, BODMAS gives 15, left to right gives 0. In the real world there are examples where both systems are used, and accordingly the full answer is that the question is ambiguous.

All there is to it.


BODMAS is the COMMON convention across the world. This is a math problem, and not a programming problem. If you asked a "smalltalk" programmer to program this equation, they would rewrite it to make it yield the "correct" answer by common convention. Programmers generally have a very high understanding/education in maths. If you asked any programmer what the answer to this question is without pointing out that it is written in "smalltalk" then the answer you would get unanimously is 15.

I dont know anywhere in the world where BODMAS is not taught in mathematics. Maybe you can show me that there is...
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Stari post #271 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:07:09 Citat 
we need to find an asian guy so he can prove all those who voted 0 wrong
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Stari post #272 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:09:07 Citat 
guys its quite obiously 0, what are you all smoking??
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Stari post #273 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:10:25 Citat 
Well, wouldn't many of the results of physics theories be defied if BODMAS hadn't been used? Wow, I'm glad those great people did it 'properly', unlike ~300 dazed people that took part in the voting!
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Stari post #274 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:15:20 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 00:15:40 od Ivan Muza) Citat 
Quote ( Miles Mckenzie @ April 5th 2012,00:09:07 )


guys its quite obiously 0, what are you all smoking??


either you are trolling, or you are very stupid.
first you have to multiply, so 5*0=0, THEN you add and deduct all those 5s.
NOW do you get it?
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Stari post #275 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:17:56 Citat 
(5 + 5 + 5) - (5 + 5) + (5 - 5) + (5 x 0) =
15 - 10 + 0 + 0 = 5

i hope no rain at hungaroring
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Stari post #276 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:19:57 Citat 
why the fu***n f**k whould you fu***n add those brackets?
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Stari post #277 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:38:54 Citat 
anything multiplied by 0 is 0, so how can it not be 0?
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Stari post #278 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:54:06 Citat 
5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 x 0 =
5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 +0=
15-0+0=
15

you are over 20 years old, you should know that
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Stari post #279 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 00:57:46 Citat 
5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 x 0 =
5+5=10
+5=15
-5=10
+5=15
+5=20
-5=15
+5=20 * 0 = 0
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Stari post #280 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 01:04:04 Citat 
you stupid troller. 4 the last time, first goes the multiplying, then other things
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Stari post #281 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 02:26:54 Citat 
it ends in 5x0... anyone who has half a brain, the first thing you learn, and equation that ends in x0 the answer will always be zero, it really doesn't matter how long you want to make to the equation, end it in x0, answer will always be 0, you cant multiply something in no groups
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Stari post #282 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 02:28:33 Citat 
handbags :P
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Stari post #283 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 02:53:16 Citat 
Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,02:26:54 )


it ends in 5x0... anyone who has half a brain, the first thing you learn, and equation that ends in x0 the answer will always be zero, it really doesn't matter how long you want to make to the equation, end it in x0, answer will always be 0, you cant multiply something in no groups


thankyou peter! finally someone with sense
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Stari post #284 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 02:56:14 Citat 
Well, guys, what part of BODMAS/BIDMAS you don't understand?
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Stari post #285 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:00:40 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 03:01:13 od Marcelo Michelini) Citat 
Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,02:26:54 )

it ends in 5x0... anyone who has half a brain, the first thing you learn, and equation that ends in x0 the answer will always be zero, it really doesn't matter how long you want to make to the equation, end it in x0, answer will always be 0, you cant multiply something in no groups

does
5 + 5a = 5a + 5a
to you?
with a <> 1
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Stari post #286 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:12:31 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 03:33:05 od Rafal Celejewski) Citat 
okay I will waste my time .

when in equation there is both addition/subtraction and multiplication/division, you FIRSTLY DO MULTIPLICATION/DIVISION, so in this case

5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 x 0 = 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 0 =>
because
5 x 0 is 0

then when you have no multiplication/division just addition/subtraction you do it from the left to right so :
10 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 0 = 15 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 0 = 10 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 0 = 15 + 5 - 5 + 0 =20 - 5 + 0 = 15 + 0 = 15

who thinks other is just stupid and should go back to the first class of primary school.
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Stari post #287 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:17:16 Citat 
Quote ( Nikhil Vohra @ April 5th 2012,02:56:14 )

Well, guys, what part of BODMAS/BIDMAS you don't understand?

Its not set out in BODMAS/BIDMAS format, maybe math is teached differently around the world, But there is no Brackets in the equation anywere, its just one long equation with plus's and subtractions and mulitplications

*5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 x 0 =* that was the answer what is zero
If it was set out say
5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + (5 x 0) =
Then if i remember my schooling correctly, you do the 5x0 first, what results in the answer being 15..

But it wasn't setout with the brackets, so the answer is zero.
Brackets Order Division Multiply Add Subtract.. there is no brackets, there for not Bodmas ^_^

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Stari post #288 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:20:38 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 03:22:01 od Rafal Celejewski) Citat 
Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,03:17:16 )

But it wasn't setout with the brackets, so the answer is zero.


have you ever heard about order of operations ?!
you don't need any brackets to know that you do multiplication before addition/subtraction -.-
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Stari post #289 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:21:02 Citat 
Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,03:17:16 )

Then if i remember my schooling correctly


There in lies the problem. You, sir, do not remember your schooling correctly. ... or you are trolling... or you are simply stupid.

Those are the only possible options.
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Stari post #290 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:24:08 Citat 
Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,03:17:16 )

Brackets Order Division Multiply Add Subtract.. there is no brackets, there for not Bodmas ^_^

you are saying it yourselve...
why do you "add" before "multiply"??
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Stari post #291 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:26:16 Citat 
Quote ( Michael Monaco @ April 5th 2012,03:21:02 )

You, sir, do not remember your schooling correctly.

Most likely the case
Quote ( Rafal Celejewski @ April 5th 2012,03:20:38 )

you don't need any brackets to know that you do multiplication before addition/subtraction -.-

Well Maths was never my strong point, so maybe i am wrong, I'm just going off what my usless maths teachers tought as back in school,
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Stari post #292 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 03:29:18 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 03:29:26 od Rafal Celejewski) Citat 
Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,03:26:16 )

Well Maths was never my strong point,


no offense mate but yeah I can see it

Quote ( Peter Franklin @ April 5th 2012,03:26:16 )

so i am wrong


fixed.

I explained you everything what is going on in this equation, what part of it you don't understand ? because you still THINK you may be wrong ...
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Stari post #293 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 04:18:59 Citat 
This is probably one of the saddest threads on this forum.
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Stari post #294 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 04:23:30 Citat 
Quote ( Jun Ho @ April 4th 2012,01:34:17 )

Then again guys,

7 x 13 = 28.


Hey Abbott!!!!
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Stari post #295 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 04:52:08 Citat 
There are 5 categories of people arguing their opinions in this thread.

1. Strictly using BODMAS and refusing any other system or notation as unrecognized or non-universal, declaring the correct answer to be 15.

2. Using a different system then BODMAS, in one example the absolute left to right system (which would have the answer be 0). And though not fully recognized throughout the world, being considered as a valid system.

3. Having not the slightest idea of what system they are using, or simply making a mistake in calculation.

4. Arguing the ambiguity of the matter. Declaring it is not specific enough and the answer could depend on the system used and notation.

5. Trolling :P

There is simply no end to this discussion....
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Stari post #296 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 05:15:17 Citat 
Quote ( Franco Dei Cas @ April 4th 2012,01:45:42 )

I'm really wondering about those 31 so far that picked 0, none of them dares to share their "theory"
It's simple mathmatics, I could explain but then it would defeat the object of the vote. LMAO
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Stari post #297 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 08:36:59 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 08:37:19 od Georg Petrov) Citat 
Of the people arguing that the answer is Zero, I would like to see someone give me the answer to this (very very simple) math problem:

http://i41.tinypic.com/4fv70k.png

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Stari post #298 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 08:42:23 Citat 
Ah, the quadratic formula.

Now C'mon, why do they still think it's 0! :|

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Stari post #299 objavljeno 5 Tra 2012, 08:51:20 (zadnji uredio5 Tra 2012, 11:46:56 od Gordon Ashford) Citat 
Quote ( Ivan Muza @ April 5th 2012,00:15:20 )

either you are trolling, or you are very stupid.
first you have to multiply, so 5*0=0, THEN you add and deduct all those 5s.
NOW do you get it?


[removed] the 5x0 is not in brackets so NO YOU DONT HAVE TO DO IT FIRST, its basic math.

The answer is 0 for all those retards out there, you start from left to right unless there is brackets lol.
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