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Whukintia Max
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Stari post #1 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 22:47:11 Citat 
First of all, hi!

I was wondering if one can know what the fuel load of the car is in practice laps and in Q1?
This is caused by, in my opinion, contradictory data:
1) I would expect the fuel load to be minimal, as one would like to set an as fast as possible time for Q1. This is supported by my lap time in Q2 usually being slower, I assumed due to the fuel load put.
2) However, then I see myself (and many others) lapping quicker (by like 3s) in the race than in Q1 (with same setup, similar weather, mostly worn tyres), which kinda made me think that maybe everyone is forced to run practice and Q1 with full fuel load?

Any thoughts on this?
I would like to know to adjust setup from Q1 to Q2 and race and really think that this data should be available somewhere. (maybe it is, and I couldn't find it?)

Thanks in advance,
Aswin
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Stari post #2 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 22:50:19 Citat 
Practice and Q1 are done with 1L of fuel.
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Stari post #3 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 23:04:42 Citat 
Thanks!
Guess there are others reasons for the quick race laps.... I'll need to collect more data for this.

Also is this listed somewhere (if not, should it be?) or does the answer come from experience?


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Stari post #4 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 23:17:01 Citat 
Quote ( Ken Neihart @ August 12th 2020,22:50:19 )

Practice and Q1 are done with 1L of fuel.
This is new to me. Sure?
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Stari post #5 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 23:17:16 Citat 
If you take a look at the tyres description, there will be a warm up item. It could explain why it takes time to haver quicker laps.
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Stari post #6 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 23:27:50 Citat 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ August 12th 2020,23:17:01 )

This is new to me. Sure?
It's not exactly 1L of fuel, but with the least amount of fuel needed to complete a lap around the circuit. Q1 laps and Practice laps are made as a single lap. Let's suppose this was real life, both Q1 and Practice laps would be made as out lap-fast lap-in lap. Only giving the tires one lap to warm up. In the race we have many laps to allow tires to warm up and hence to give us better lap times.
You also need to take into consideration the temperature of the track since FP/Q1 and Q2/Race weathers and temperatures are different.

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Stari post #7 objavljeno 12 Kol 2020, 23:36:45 (zadnji uredio12 Kol 2020, 23:38:26 od Tibor Szuromi) Citat 
Is everyone getting what they need? (Fuel)



It would be more interesting if you had to refuel to Q1, Q2 as well.
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Stari post #8 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 00:52:56 Citat 
1) GPRO is so eco-friendly that both practise and Q1 is run without any fuel, powered by holy ghost or something :)

2) CT + warmed up tyres

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Stari post #9 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 01:21:28 Citat 
I meant 1 Lap, not 1 Liter.
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Stari post #10 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 01:24:36 Citat 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ August 12th 2020,23:36:45 )

It would be more interesting if you had to refuel to Q1, Q2 as well.


You fuel up for Q2
Having to set fuel in Q1 or practice laps and getting feedback would give away too much information.
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Stari post #11 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 02:13:26 Citat 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ August 13th 2020,00:52:56 )

1) GPRO is so eco-friendly that both practise and Q1 is run without any fuel, powered by holy ghost or something :)


Gotta love such magic! btw it's not the holy ghost; Just fat-eaten, EU funded, spending your money Frans Timmermans formula ;)
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Stari post #12 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 10:15:43 Citat 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ August 13th 2020,00:52:56 )

1) GPRO is so eco-friendly that both practise and Q1 is run without any fuel, powered by holy ghost or something :)


I see, nice :)

Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ August 13th 2020,00:52:56 )

2) CT + warmed up tyres


Sorry, but what does CT stand for?
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Stari post #13 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 10:19:16 Citat 
CT=Clear Track (Risks)
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Stari post #14 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 12:35:23 Citat 
Quote ( Aswin Witte @ August 13th 2020,10:15:43 )

Sorry, but what does CT stand for?



Here's a list of commonly used abbreviations:

CCP - Car Character Points
CT - Clear Track Risk
DF - Defending Risk
DNF - Did not finish
DNS - Did not start
DM - Driver mistake
FL - Fastest Lap
FOBY - Find Out By Yourself - Not used anymore.
FT - Favourite Track
MF - Malfunctioning Risk
OA - Overall (of Driver or Technical Director)
OBP - One Big Push (a strategy where a manager only pushes hard in one race of the season)
OBR - One Big Race
OP - Opening post (the first post of a thread) or opening/original poster (the person who opened the thread)
OT - Overtaking Risk
PHA - Power, Handling and Acceleration
S&F - Staff and Facilities
SG - Starting Grid
TCD - Tyre Compound Difference
TI - Technical Insight
TD - Technical Director
WS - Wing Split
XP - Experience
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Stari post #15 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 13:27:31 Citat 
Quote ( Mike Bennett @ August 13th 2020,12:35:23 )

FOBY - Find Out By Yourself - Not used anymore.


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Stari post #16 objavljeno 13 Kol 2020, 16:17:12 Citat 
Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 13th 2020,01:24:36 )

Having to set fuel in Q1 or practice laps and getting feedback would give away too much information.


Quote ( Mike Bennett @ August 13th 2020,12:35:23 )

FOBY - Find Out By Yourself - Not used anymore.


It needs to update to TAWG - Take A Wild Guess
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