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Quote ( Frank Stocco @ December 7th 2020,20:02:46 ) You can put the worst driver in his position and just move the steering wheel from side to side and he will be a champion. It’s al about the car and technology ! Take away all that and put the car back in the drivers hands to see how well he does !
Let us know what you think about Bottas then.
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Quote ( George Togas @ December 7th 2020,19:13:31 ) Frank,I know there are many greeks living in Canada.
It won't be so difficult for you to find one of them and ask him what we mean when we call someone Stocco.
Your post is the best proof that this meaning is right.
:P
Hahaha..
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Quote ( Frank Stocco @ December 7th 2020,20:02:46 ) You can put the worst driver in his position and just move the steering wheel from side to side and he will be a champion. It’s al about the car and technology ! Take away all that and put the car back in the drivers hands to see how well he does !
Serious now??
My favorite driver are Charles and Checo, but Hamilton he's a legend..
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Valtteri Bottas removes Mercedes from Instagram bio as George Russell also makes change
Valtteri Bottas and George Russell have made changes to their Instagram bios
Last month Bottas' Instagram bio had a tag to Mercedes' F1 account but that has since been deleted. Russell has also removed all mention of Williams from his bio, which now just reads: "Formula 1 Driver."
I think Valtteri Bottas and George Russell may be swapping seats in 2021. Both men are under contract with their current manufacturers for the 2021 campaign.
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As Verstappen said: 90% of the drivers on the current grid would win with a Mercedes.
But!!!
As Sainz Jr.said: only 10% of the drivers on the current grid would beat Hamilton with the same car.
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Quote ( Paulo Guarim @ December 9th 2020,03:16:04 ) 10% of the drivers on the current grid would beat Hamilton with the same car
Which two might those be? ;P
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Verstappen, Leclerc, Ricciardo, Russell and Alonso are the class of the field alongside Hamilton. Put either of them in the same team and they will push each other. We have already seen that with the Hamilton Alonso pairing, and the Ricciardo Verstappen pairing. There's a reason any of these guys are never going to be teaming together.
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Quote ( Luke Frost @ December 9th 2020,04:38:55 ) Verstappen, Leclerc, Ricciardo, Russell and Alonso are the class of the field alongside Hamilton. Put either of them in the same team and they will push each other. We have already seen that with the Hamilton Alonso pairing, and the Ricciardo Verstappen pairing. There's a reason any of these guys are never going to be teaming together.
Seen that with Hamilton and Alonso... seriously? You gonna compare a 7 time champion Hamilton with a 1st season rookie Hamilton and call them the same.... yeah, you not doing your credibility any favours here. You folks making me have to bring the logic when I dont even like the idjit, not cool at all.
Same with Ricciardo and Verstappen. Comparing young kids with more senior drivers and then assuming the situation the same now that said kids have matured and grown... Your logic on understanding sport in general is appearing rather flawed.
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 ) Seen that with Hamilton and Alonso... seriously? You gonna compare a 7 time champion Hamilton with a 1st season rookie Hamilton and call them the same.... yeah, you not doing your credibility any favours here. You folks making me have to bring the logic when I dont even like the idjit, not cool at all.
He is referencing the mentality of drivers like that.
Hamilton is an alpha driver, as are the others he mentioned. This hasn't changed it was evident with his clashing with Nico.
If you put a strong personality alongside many of the top drivers, then they wont play well together.
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Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ December 9th 2020,05:24:35 ) Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 )
Seen that with Hamilton and Alonso... seriously? You gonna compare a 7 time champion Hamilton with a 1st season rookie Hamilton and call them the same.... yeah, you not doing your credibility any favours here. You folks making me have to bring the logic when I dont even like the idjit, not cool at all.
He is referencing the mentality of drivers like that.
Hamilton is an alpha driver, as are the others he mentioned. This hasn't changed it was evident with his clashing with Nico.
If you put a strong personality alongside many of the top drivers, then they wont play well together.
My aplogies, but looked more like he was answering the Q above his comment?
Also, Im not entirely sure of that either. Hamilton was young and Alonso, yeah, he was an entitled buffoon alpha or not, which can't make up my mind if learnt his lessons or not.
I'd say young drivers with older drivers can cause friction, but mature drivers, not so much a problem tbh. We've had some exemples of it working fine once the tantrum throwers grew up and/or matured/realised sun doesnt shine out their ass. Some exceptions, but then, some drivers happily would try to win at any cost, which, yeah, would ruffle any feathers, alpha feathers or not.
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:29:51 ) We've had some exemples of it working fine once the tantrum throwers grew up and/or matured/realised sun doesnt shine out their ass. Some exceptions, but then, some drivers happily would try to win at any cost, which, yeah, would ruffle any feathers, alpha feathers or not.
I'm at a loss to think of a pairing of strong personalitied drivers who has worked together?
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Quote ( Paulo Guarim @ December 9th 2020,03:16:04 ) As Verstappen said: 90% of the drivers on the current grid would win with a Mercedes.
But!!!
As Sainz Jr.said: only 10% of the drivers on the current grid would beat Hamilton with the same car.
I agree with both statements
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 ) Seen that with Hamilton and Alonso... seriously? You gonna compare a 7 time champion Hamilton with a 1st season rookie Hamilton and call them the same.... yeah, you not doing your credibility any favours here. You folks making me have to bring the logic when I dont even like the idjit, not cool at all.
Hamilton is Hamilton, but Alonso has been very unlucky (or unwise) with team changes in his career. I don't think he collected all his talent deserved.
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Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ December 9th 2020,05:36:05 ) I'm at a loss to think of a pairing of strong personalitied drivers who has worked together?
Berger and Alesi - strong personalities that got the best out of some sub-par machinery at times...though not the greatest talents I admit!
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 ) Seen that with Hamilton and Alonso... seriously? You gonna compare a 7 time champion Hamilton with a 1st season rookie Hamilton and call them the same.... yeah, you not doing your credibility any favours here. You folks making me have to bring the logic when I dont even like the idjit, not cool at all.
Same with Ricciardo and Verstappen. Comparing young kids with more senior drivers and then assuming the situation the same now that said kids have matured and grown... Your logic on understanding sport in general is appearing rather flawed.
Lol.
So because he's old then, you reckon Alonso of 2007 will hammer Lewis of 2020?
I have actually competed in sport MG, have you?
Since then Alonso vs team mates has been better than Lewis vs team mates. Lewis is a phenomenal driver, but to deny that they would push each other if they teamed right now is showing flawed critical thinking on your part either because you like Lewis too much or hate Fernando too much.
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I think Bottas will stay for one more season in Mercedes. In 2022 F1 regulations will change and Hamilton might retire if he gets his 8th title in 2021. I'm pretty sure after that Russell will drive for Mercedes in 2022. But honestly it's hard to predict driver line-up because everything can happen.
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 ) Quote ( Luke Frost @ December 9th 2020,04:38:55 )
Seen that with Hamilton and Alonso... seriously? You gonna compare a 7 time champion Hamilton with a 1st season rookie Hamilton and call them the same.... yeah, you not doing your credibility any favours here. You folks making me have to bring the logic when I dont even like the idjit, not cool at all.
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it is generally understood that he is taking the name of Alonso alongside Russell and Leclerc than he is talking about present-day Alonso and Hamilton ... and u definitely needs to be good to a wdc and being a 7-time champion is not ordinary but it's idiotic to think others are not that capable coz they don't have same no. of titles - coz only 1 or sometimes 2 car are capable of winning the pionship.
and idk why u called seriously.... 2007 McLaren meltdown was massive in some ways it was biggest fight as they were in team fight as well as with Ferrari. if u don't call that an intense season idk what is then ...
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:29:51 ) Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ December 9th 2020,05:24:35 )
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 )
Also, Im not entirely sure of that either. Hamilton was young and Alonso, yeah, he was an entitled buffoon alpha or not, which can't make up my mind if learned his lessons or not.
which lesson - how to be a bottas then I think no he hasn't learned his lesson.
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I put together my top ten Formula 1 drivers of all time to my mind. I would love to see them all in their prime and racing the same bright red Ferrari, also in its prime, say 2004 model
Not necessarily in this order:- Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Fangio, Prost, Lauda, Clark, Hunt, Ascari, G.Hill
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Hunt is the only one that surprises me! I take your list and change in Nuvolari, Stewart, or Alonso for Hunt
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Il Mantovano Volante as Nuvolari was known as died in 1953 and never raced modern F1. But, yes, one of the very greats. He learned his trade on racing motor cycles and progressed to cars, as did Damon Hill, one of my top 20 picks.
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How does Surtees rank in your list then Gina? :)
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Where is Kamui Kobayashi? :(
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That's right Jonathon. He is definitely up there but I personally rank him a better bike rider than F1.
Kobayashi never had a real chance to prove himself. What little I knew of him struck me as being a very good driver with a great personality, did Sauber a lot of good.
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:29:51 ) I'd say young drivers with older drivers can cause friction, but mature drivers, not so much a problem tbh. We've had some exemples of it working fine once the tantrum throwers grew up and/or matured/realised sun doesnt shine out their ass. Some exceptions, but then, some drivers happily would try to win at any cost, which, yeah, would ruffle any feathers, alpha feathers or not.
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ December 9th 2020,05:21:17 ) Your logic on understanding sport in general is appearing rather flawed.
When drivers are in a close fight the the world championship tensions will naturally rise, especially within a team. They both have a goal of taking all the glory. There are few exceptions, but maybe you should consider that before you go calling these drivers all the silly names you call them from the comfort of your couch.
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I'd put money on Norris being world champion in the next 5 years. The kid has it all but the engine currently. Will be a different animal next season with a Mercedes engine under that McLaren. On topic, would love to have seen Norris get the Hamilton hotseat. Russell showed that with the right car, any driver on that grid could compete for the top. Just a shame he was let down by the team itself for that race
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Norris is getting beat by Sainz this season with all the bad luck that Sainz has had.
He's good, but nothing spectacular.
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Saint is and excellent driver. If he and leclerc can work together then Ferrari are going to be in good shape from that perspective.
Of course, with how poorly Ferrari manages drivers, one of them won't last long.
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As a Brit I am proud of Hamiltons achievements. He is up there to be shot at. He has shown his craft many times. It is up to other drivers and teams to catch him.
As for replacement, don't need to consider it as he is not going anywhere for a few years yet. When he does go Mercedes already have his replacement to take over as we have seen. The question is - how long can Bottas keep his seat? I like the guy but he is a week link!!! If it is the car that makes a winner why is he 2nd. How come a novice who drives a Williams take the piss and show Bottas how to drive a Merc.
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