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Fernando Garcia
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Kiriman lama #12466 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:24:16 Sebut 
Quote ( Zdravko Subakov @ December 29th 2017,22:21:34 )

Maybe Vlad needs to read a bit about RNG and players perception of it.
https://www.gamedev.net/articles/game-design/game-design-and...


TL;DR
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Kiriman lama #12467 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:25:21 Sebut 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ December 29th 2017,21:59:52 )

No need for meteorology.
(There is no such mistake.)


weather only to Q1 and Q2.

And random weather to start and all race. No more "special" races.
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Kiriman lama #12468 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:26:34 Sebut 
Quote ( George Togas @ December 29th 2017,22:11:00 )

Quote ( Andreas Andreou @ December 29th 2017,21:36:18 )

I will just say that he has not done so again. Pity! So now we expect rain with odds of 1-3%?
Yes. Once every 62 seasons.

I am thinking of quitting as I am not happy with the percentage of 62(seasons) x 17(races)= 1054 races total that have normal weather.
I prefer to stick my head into tonight's race that cost me the "heavy duty" achievement.

Grow up people.
If what you say is correct (never seen this before) then it's 1 / 1050 races.

Andrea,sorry for quoting you. Many people made the same comment. It was just luck to quote your comment and not someone else

That's not correct for a few reasons:
1) There haven't been 1054 races with this weather forecast.
2) Worst (or best, depending on how you read it) case scenario: 4% chance it stops raining after 30 minutes, 8% change it stays dry in second half hour. Meaning a total of 0,32% chance of this weather happening. And if you include the 3rd half hour then it's even 0,05% chance
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Kiriman lama #12469 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:26:56 Sebut 
This race was the last step to be retired.
Daneks Britāls
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Kiriman lama #12470 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:27:28 Sebut 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 29th 2017,22:22:42 )

Everyone racing today had the same probability


Rookie and amateur, yes. Above not for simple reason.
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Kiriman lama #12471 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:28:22 Sebut 
Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ December 29th 2017,22:25:21 )

weather only to Q1 and Q2.

And random weather to start and all race. No more "special" races.
Yes.
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Kiriman lama #12472 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:29:18 Sebut 
Well if a weatherman cannot predict the weather 30 minutes in advance, he should be unemployed. The way driver energy affects a driver is unrealistic and now the reliability of weather forecasts. I am very quickly losing my interest in the game.
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Kiriman lama #12473 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:29:33 Sebut 
Quote ( Dominiek Van West @ December 29th 2017,22:26:34 )

case scenario: 4% chance it stops raining after 30 minutes,


Except it isn't. There is no probability for the rain stopping. That only the probability of it starting. People just presume with it being that high that it should rain all quarter
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Kiriman lama #12474 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:30:06 Sebut 
I have to admit... I was very very lucky today ending in P2 with 7litres of fuel left in the tank
I pushed maximum today to retain Pro for first time.... spend 60Mill for this race alone.
I set wait to pit on 7 laps... (as I expected rain to stop late in race..)
But I also made sure to put some fuel in 3rd and 4th stop..

this time 68litres... was enough for me (pure luck, but thought about it as a manager)

in Racing all is possible ...
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Kiriman lama #12475 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:30:30 Sebut 
Quote ( Dominiek Van West @ December 29th 2017,22:26:34 )

Meaning a total of 0,32% chance of this weather happening. And if you include the 3rd half hour then it's even 0,05% chance


https://media1.giphy.com/media/j6uK36y32LxQs/200.gif
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Kiriman lama #12476 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:30:31 Sebut 
Bottom line: it can happen.
I would gladly accept more reality and unpredictable weather and less "not feeling well in his helmet" and other weird pistops and tech. problems.
Zdravko Subakov
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Kiriman lama #12477 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:31:50 (terakhir disunting Dis 29 2017, 22:34:16 oleh Zdravko Subakov) Sebut 
Quote ( Fernando Garcia @ December 29th 2017,22:24:16 )

Quote ( Zdravko Subakov @ December 29th 2017,22:21:34 )

Maybe Vlad needs to read a bit about RNG and players perception of it.
https://www.gamedev.net/articles/game-design/game-design-and...

TL;DR


"...What took us four years to understand is that <b>luck-based game mechanics are not necessary to achieve excitement, balance, or consolement.</b> All of these objectives are reachable through other means, without the player frustration or toxic community behaviour that inevitably arises in games featuring a high amount of randomness. In a nutshell, we've concluded that<b> it's possible to design a compelling competitive game without luck</b>. Possible. Not easy..."
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Kiriman lama #12478 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:34:06 Sebut 
Quote ( Kyle Morris @ December 29th 2017,22:29:33 )

Quote ( Dominiek Van West @ December 29th 2017,22:26:34 )

case scenario: 4% chance it stops raining after 30 minutes,

Except it isn't. There is no probability for the rain stopping. That only the probability of it starting. People just presume with it being that high that it should rain all quarter

Wow, is that for real?
I always thought it was the chance of starting or stopping (instead of the actual chance of rain), but now you say it's only the chance of starting?
Where is that explained?
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Kiriman lama #12479 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:35:55 (terakhir disunting Dis 29 2017, 22:36:50 oleh Kyle Morris) Sebut 
Quote ( Dominiek Van West @ December 29th 2017,22:34:06 )

Where is that explained?


https://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Weather

It only states it for 0% and 100%. Since it wasn't 100% there was a chance for it to stop, and it did stop
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Kiriman lama #12480 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:37:46 Sebut 
I'm actually speechless about this weather ... it's like ... like a ... like a woman slapping you out of nowhere with a reason, that you cheated on her in her dreams ... like seriously ... how can you prepare for something like that ... it's like ... like a ... I give up ... off to bed ...
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Kiriman lama #12481 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:38:36 Sebut 
That race was weird as sh#t but I suppose that every now and again a 100/1 shot wins?

Lots of folks gonna stop supporting because of this but wren't the guys you were racing in the same boat? Yeah a boat, I know, but it wasn't intentional.

Life's to short people....
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Kiriman lama #12482 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:38:42 (terakhir disunting Dis 29 2017, 22:42:14 oleh Robert Kearney) Sebut 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ December 29th 2017,21:51:15 )

Pathetic. No other words really.


Shambles, shocking, useless, abysmal, unfathomable, ridiculous , could go on....

But it’s another example of the GPRO LOTTERY..
I agree with Jose ^^^^

Didn’t affect me unduly, but it could have.... and did affect others.
Completely pointless waste of time...... planning becomes pointless when the GPRO weather system happens like this. Time for a revamp ?

Same for everybody though I suppose.
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Kiriman lama #12483 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:39:36 Sebut 
Quote ( Kyle Morris @ December 29th 2017,22:35:55 )

Quote ( Dominiek Van West @ December 29th 2017,22:34:06 )

Where is that explained?


https://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Weather

100% rain probability means that rain won't stop during the period
That implies that less than 100% means there is a chance it will stop. But now you say that if it says 99% it doesn't mean that the chances of it stopping is 1% but it could be for example 70%?
Where is the logic?
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Kiriman lama #12484 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:43:48 Sebut 

https://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Weather

This needs to be changed.

Meteorologist: err!!!

+-20-30% maximum.
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Kiriman lama #12485 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:44:44 Sebut 
How to kill your own game, give wrong information to players. This race meant nothing for me since I was in saving mode. However I'm sure a lot of people was affected by this ridiculous forecast. I would understand if it was at 50% or 60% chance of rain, but over 85% and it stopped while the forecast was over 90% and it didn't start again.
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Kiriman lama #12486 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:45:37 Sebut 
It will be difficult to consider all scenarios for future races.. even next race could rain more than half race ...
I'll bring my umbrella with me just in case
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Kiriman lama #12487 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:49:35 (terakhir disunting Dis 29 2017, 22:49:54 oleh Daneks Britāls) Sebut 
Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ December 29th 2017,22:45:37 )

I'll bring my umbrella with me just in case


It will never rain when you have umbrella with you. Otherwise no fun.
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Kiriman lama #12488 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:51:40 Sebut 
WTF with all those cries?! Oh boy, something completely unexpected just happened. Guess we're all on the same boat then, aren't we? Chesus!

@Kyle: can I nominate this already as topic of the season? ;)

BTW I want to marry that beautiful italian lady singing in the rain :P
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Kiriman lama #12489 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:51:58 Sebut 
They will write a new methodology!

Cool it!
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Kiriman lama #12490 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:53:14 (terakhir disunting Dis 29 2017, 22:55:11 oleh Robert Kearney) Sebut 
Lol yeah ;)

Could be 100% wet according to that forecast.

As for the “fill up your account “ post.

Shove that right up your kilt !
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Kiriman lama #12491 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:54:13 Sebut 
Quote ( Jay De Snoo @ December 29th 2017,22:51:40 )

@Kyle: can I nominate this already as topic of the season? ;)


if you remember to do it
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Kiriman lama #12492 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:55:44 Sebut 
Quote ( Jay De Snoo @ December 29th 2017,22:51:40 )

Guess we're all on the same boat then, aren't we?


Nope. For simple reason
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Kiriman lama #12493 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 22:56:52 Sebut 
I may wear the black livery next race. To remember all the cry babies we lost in the great rage-quit of '17.

#jesuisdry
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Kiriman lama #12494 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 23:02:23 Sebut 
It's just one race, i don't see any problems. I was running in 1st but ended up 3rd could have been lower if it wasn't for a bit of luck, i mean how often has this happened no need to cry :)
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Kiriman lama #12495 dikirim Dis 29 2017, 23:03:48 Sebut 
In Hungary the meteorogus says: probability of rain: X%; not X% -Y%.

GPRO: 1%-99%. Drop a dice! Nonsense.
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