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Kiriman lama #1 dikirim Okt 26 2006, 19:27:34 (terakhir disunting Jul 22 2009, 23:34:22 oleh Chris Williams) Sebut 
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Kiriman lama #2 dikirim Nov 13 2006, 11:43:39 Sebut 
For ppl in smaller and / or underrepresented countries in the circuits list,

I am making preparations for extending the circuits list.
The idea is to come to a list of circuits for GPRO which consists of grade 1, grade 1T and grade 2 tracks, by the standards of the FIA.
Preferable added with past F1tracks in use at least from 1970 onwards and possible future F1circuits currrently under construction.

Since circuits hardly ever mention their licence grade, the series run on a circuit usulay provide a good indication of the circuit grade.
The FIA applies the following :
GRADE CATEGORIES OF CARS
1: Formula 1
1T: Formula 1 testing
2: Single seater racing cars of Groups D (FIA International
Formula) and E (Free formula) with corrected cylinder
capacities over 2500 cm³, excepting Formula 1
Sports Cars of Groups C and E including SR1, SR2, LMP1,
LMP2 and those with corrected cylinder capacities over
2500 cm³
FIA GT Championship
Historic cars of Groups F1/4 (TGP and F1 of periods G, H, I),
TSRC 17, 18, 29, 30, 41, 42, 47 and 48 (Two-seater Racing
Cars, over 2000cc, of periods G and later) and all cars of
Period Z excepting Group B and WRC

In other words, grade 2 is for former F3000, F-Nippon, A1GP, GP2, F-Renault, Champcar, IRL, F-Atlantic etc and the LeMans cars..

Since that opens up a huge list of nonF1 circuits, the restriction I would like to apply is not to include temporary streetcircuits and ovals, and restrict US circuits somewhat.

My source till now has mainly been http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/

I kind of already covered Australia, Asia and Africa.
I am open for suggestions for Europe, Middle East, North America & South America. Circuits should be preferable grade 2 worthy, and not too short , 3km+ but also not too long.

Plz state the circuit + country + source of a trackmap, and if possible indications of pitlane lentgh (short / normal / long), overtaking, grip / tyre wear, downforce etc . In short either a small description or a link to a source with that info.
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Kiriman lama #3 dikirim Nov 13 2006, 12:06:44 Sebut 
please dont do 200 tracks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kiriman lama #4 dikirim Nov 13 2006, 12:17:08 Sebut 
we won't do that!
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Kiriman lama #5 dikirim Nov 13 2006, 14:39:51 Sebut 
if you must have two usgp's have one at detroit ----what a track almost reaching 100 in the straights
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Kiriman lama #6 dikirim Nov 13 2006, 16:02:19 Sebut 
Road America, Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez, Furnidora Park, Portland International Raceway, Mid-Ohio Sports Car Circuit, Watkins Glen, Infineon Raceway just to name a few that fit your description. I may search for additional information when I have enough time to do it.
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Kiriman lama #7 dikirim Nov 14 2006, 14:53:47 Sebut 
Estoril!!! good news!!

Quote ( Stijn Everaerts @ November 3rd 2006,21:23:16 )

Spa is so good that we should drive it twice...


You can't say anything more certain!! I don't know any other track better than SPA...it's great...
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Kiriman lama #8 dikirim Nov 14 2006, 15:23:32 Sebut 
OOOOOHHHHHHH!!! noooo!!
i want Interlagos again..

first: where is my trophy?? :o~

in previous season i wanted be a winner in the Brazil and didnt not obtain. Now, i want Brazil again with the Force of the people.!!!!!
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Kiriman lama #9 dikirim Nov 14 2006, 15:31:02 Sebut 
when will it beguin next season????
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Kiriman lama #10 dikirim Nov 14 2006, 17:46:58 Sebut 
check the other thread marcelo! announcement maybe later today!
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Kiriman lama #11 dikirim Nov 15 2006, 20:09:09 Sebut 
Monthlery, one of the good old european oval tracks. But my suggestion is the full road course layout.
Info:
http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/montlher.html


Also the Norisring (DTM)
google maps aerial:
www.freewebs.com/tyny/norisring.zit (rename as .zip, freewebs apparently doesn't allow zip files!)
www.dtm.de will give info too.
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Kiriman lama #12 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 16:52:55 Sebut 
This would roughly be the list of current and to be added circuits.
Some are already in the DB,

Interlagos -  Brazil -  F1
BuenosAires -  Argentina -  F1
Imola -  San Marino -  F1
Monaco -  Monaco -  F1
Brcelona -  Spain -  F1
Montreal -  Canada -  F1
mangyCourse -  France -  F1
Silverstone -  United Kingdom -  F1
Hungaroring -  Hungary -  F1
Spa -  Belgium -  F1
Monza -  Italy -  F1
A1ring -  Austria -  F1
Suzuka -  Japan -  F1
Jerez -  Spain -  F1
Sepang -  Malaysia -  F1
Indianapolis -  United States -  F1
Hockenheim -  Germany -  F1
Estoril -  Portugal -  F1
Adelaide -  Australia -  Ex F1
Kyalami -  South Africa -  Ex F1
Nurnburgring -  Germany -  F1
MexicoCity -  Mexico -  Ex F1
BrandHatch -  Great Britain -  Ex F1
Oesterreichring -  Austria -  Ex F1
PaulRicard -  France -  F1
Zolder -  Belgium -  Ex F1
Zandvoort -  Netherlands -  Non F1
Mugello -  Italy -  F1
Shakir -  Bahrain -  F1
Anderstorp -  Sweden -  Ex F1
Brasilia -  Brazil -  Ex F1
Fiorano -  Italy -  F1
Shanghai -  China -  F1
Melbourne -  Australia -  F1
Leguna Seca -  United States -  Non F1
Oesterreichring - Austria -  Ex F1
mosport - canada -  Ex F1
Aida - Japan -  Ex F1
jamara - spain -  Ex F1
donington - uk -  Ex F1
long beach - usa -  Ex F1
detroit - usa -  Ex F1
dallas - usa -  Ex F1
las vegas - usa -  Ex F1
phoenix - usa -  Ex F1
watkins glen - usa -  Ex F1
Istanbul - Turkey -  F1
Eastern Creeck - Australia -  Non F1
Zhuhai - China -  Non F1
Rijeka - croatia -  Non F1
Brno - Czech Replubic -  Non F1
most - Czech Replubic -  Non F1
Jyllands Ringen - denmark -  Non F1
Ahvenisto - finland -  Non F1
Motopark Raceway - finland -  Non F1
Bugatti - france -  Non F1
Rustaviring - Georgia -  Non F1
Lausitzring - germany -  Non F1
Obersleben - germany -  Non F1
Sachsenring - germany -  Non F1
Serre - greece -  Non F1
Irungattukottai - India -  Non F1
Sentul - Indonesia -  Non F1
mondello park - ireland -  Non F1
Vallelunga - italy -  Non F1
Twin-Ring Motegi Road Course - Japan -  Non F1
Bikernieki - Latvia -  Non F1
Kaunas - Lithuania -  Non F1
Puebla - mexico -  Non F1
assen - netherlands -  Non F1
Manfeild - New Zealand -  Non F1
Taupo - New Zealand -  Non F1
Artic Circle Raceway - Norway -  Non F1
Bantangas - Phillipines -  Non F1
Poznan - Poland -  Non F1
Loseil - Qatar -  Non F1
Beranovac - Serbia -  Non F1
Gotland Ring - Sweden -  Non F1
mantorp - Sweden -  Non F1
bedford - uk -  Non F1
Croft - uk -  Non F1
Oulton park - uk -  Non F1
Rockingham - uk -  Non F1
chaika - ukraine -  Non F1
Dubai - United Arab Emirates -  Non F1
El Pinar - uruguay -  Non F1
Laguna Seca - USA -  Non F1
Fuji - Japan - proposed_F1
Lodz - Poland - proposed_F1
Nagatino Island - Russia - proposed_F1
CapeTown - South Africa - proposed_F1
South Cholla - South Korea - proposed_F1
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Kiriman lama #13 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 17:31:17 Sebut 
Even russian one :) Nonexistent :)
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Kiriman lama #14 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 17:52:58 Sebut 
OMG thas alot!!! any chance of seperating them? :S
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Kiriman lama #15 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 18:18:40 Sebut 
And lithuanian track too ;) nice :)
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Kiriman lama #16 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 20:15:19 Sebut 
any chance to get a copy of the track database hans, would be easy to work in my spread?
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Kiriman lama #17 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 20:26:24 Sebut 
Why do we need 92 tracks? Please don't use so many tracks. It's pointless to have so many. It's so [Blacklisted] style...
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Kiriman lama #18 dikirim Nov 16 2006, 20:47:22 Sebut 
I agree. We need to use the set of available tracks as in real f1 so the experience plays a role in the game.
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Kiriman lama #19 dikirim Nov 17 2006, 03:04:16 Sebut 
Quote ( Hans Barf @ November 16th 2006,16:52:55 )

El Pinar - uruguay - Non F1


haha, that would be a really tiny circuit :p
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Kiriman lama #20 dikirim Nov 17 2006, 03:17:11 Sebut 
Woo, New Zealand Tracks :). Yeah, I don't know whether soo many tracks is wise though, like only 1 New Zealand track is suffice (Which would be Taupo ;)) :). I am not too worried though (On a bit of a high from promoting :D), well not yet... But the more I think about it... :/ Still a great list of tracks.
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Kiriman lama #21 dikirim Nov 17 2006, 09:02:23 Sebut 
@ALL,

I know it seems very [Blacklisted]-ish. Yet, there are many circuits out there on the world which are worhty of a f1 race. And if you look at the nations with most managers, I am sure it would please them if once in a while a season contained a circuit of their own country. If we woudl stick only the ex-f1 circuits only, we would restrict the circuits the usual western european countries.
Thats why I looked a little further then that. Also, Bernie is doing the same thing (well that obviously is NOT a good reason to do the same), but F1 is developing to a less western orientated calender with more alternating circuits of one country. We simply take this line a little further.

So the list contains circuits as well which are FIA grade2 and / or long enough and are permenant road circuits.
Some countries simply did not have good candidates, some have had a good proposal for a new circuits, which has yet to be materialized or may actualy never happen (Russia).
But the difference with F1youknowwhat is that there is no bias towards countries with dominantly red and yellow color in the flag, nor zillion tracks of a regional area listed as a country, nor fictional tracks made up from the innitials of the admin.
the only bias there was, was not having to many very good, but nonF1 related USA tracks. I choose to stick to exF1 usa tracks.


These circuits will be added a few at the time. Currently already some 35 are available.
I would propose to go for e.g. 75% alternating contemporary circuits each season, so 13 from the 35,
and add the other 25% from the other 60 circuits, so 4 each season. The list would suffice for at least the next 15 seasons...

As you can see, some circuits are indeed short. The maximum number of laps wewant to run is 80. We would not have live races last longer then 160 minutes. On the otherhand, the minimum distance of a GP was set at 220 km, but IMO a realistic minimum would be more like 275 km. It means that circuits with less then 3,5 km tracklength are still subject to be dropped.


As for your comments, keep them comming.
I agree that experience should be important. We do not need so many circuits, at least not at short term.
If the long list serves the function of starting up the discussion only, fine by me ;)

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Kiriman lama #22 dikirim Nov 17 2006, 12:25:58 Sebut 
Quote ( Hans Barf @ November 16th 2006,16:52:55 )

Jyllands Ringen - denmark - Non F1


Yes :-DDDDDDDDDD

Don´t seperate this, but install right away ;o)


Edit: Ok, ok. I know it´s too tiny.
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Kiriman lama #23 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 15:53:34 Sebut 
To Moderator!!!Where Can I propose my City TRUCK?I can make project of the race on my own.
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Kiriman lama #24 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 16:08:17 Sebut 
Quote ( Dawid Skwarczynski @ December 11th 2006,15:53:34 )

To Moderator!!!Where Can I propose my City TRUCK?I can make project of the race on my own.


if its a real track then here! if not then you cant! :(
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Kiriman lama #25 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 16:20:01 Sebut 
DIJON PRENOIS
(the track hosted a non-championship Swiss Grand Prix in 1977)

JACAREPAGUA - (was alternative brazilian gp in rio when fittipaldi and piquet kept winning everything)

Le Mans - although not f1 circuit its still well known..

Mellaha (libya) - was known as Tripoli GP 1925 was fastest gp 8.14 miles.

Watkins Glen

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Kiriman lama #26 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 17:16:32 Sebut 



NIVELLES was alternated with zolder

Macau

MONTLHERY - Formula 3 until 1989
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Kiriman lama #27 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 19:15:35 Sebut 
Quote ( Maxim Kotov @ November 16th 2006,20:47:22 )

I agree. We need to use the set of available tracks as in real f1 so the experience plays a role in the game.


Agreed. I don't mind a few new tracks per season as Hans suggests - they can freshen things up a little & provide for some unexpected results - but I feel strongly that we must not overdo it as this would undermine the value of player experience....

ps @ Hans - you list many there that have never hosted F1 & probably won't - yet there are some genuine ex-F1 tracks missing from your list. I know it's only the name of a circuit but the old F1 tracks with all their history mean something to many of us - whereas these obscure tracks you list lack the history, tradition & memories that can give the game its atmosphere....
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Kiriman lama #28 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 20:04:50 Sebut 
Quote ( Robert Byrne @ December 11th 2006,16:20:01 )

Le Mans - although not f1 circuit its still well known..

held one race in the 1950s
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Kiriman lama #29 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 20:17:10 Sebut 
Thanks for answer, so I'm asking do we have in Poland a real truck in Poznan?
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Kiriman lama #30 dikirim Dis 11 2006, 20:20:58 Sebut 
Quote ( Conor Swain @ December 11th 2006,20:04:50 )

held one race in the 1950s


Somehow I think Le Mans Bugati configuration was used in 1967 as well. At least GPL (Grand Prix Legends) sites say so.
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