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He's a bit money-faced too, only wanted to return if the car is capable of winning and the wages was good to him. That's one reason why I really don't like him, money isn't everything.
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ August 13th 2011,20:04:35 )
He's a bit money-faced too, only wanted to return if the car is capable of winning and the wages was good to him. That's one reason why I really don't like him, money isn't everything.
I'd imagine he would've got payed more in F1 this year than he is in his own rally team. Ferrari payed him as much as they thought he was worth, if Ferrari was willing to pay then Kimi's earned the money.
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I think the reason why Kimi wanted a good car and lots of money is because he doesn't find F1 that attractive anymore.
He found rally as lots of fun and he chose it.
Also he would be prepared to PAY for place in Nascar because he thought it was fun.
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Quote ( Teemu Toikka @ August 13th 2011,20:20:16 )
Also he would be prepared to PAY for place in Nascar because he thought it was fun.
The first one in the Truck series, yes. The second one in the Nationwide, heck no. He didn't like it! :P
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Kimis title is very deserved.
First of all, the world champion is the one, who has most points during WHOLE season, so to tell he didn´t deserve it cos both of his rivals made mistake or had some troubles during the last 2 GPs is irrelevant, every race has the same value. And you can´t tell he was much more lucky compared to others during whole season (he had also his troubles in other GPs). Overall, he made the most points, so he is world champion...
More over, he was great in McLaren and was 2 times second. In 2005 he lost cos of McLarens huge unreliability and in 2003 it was so close, that if they didn´t push Schumacher out from the gravel in his home GP Nurburgring, he would be champion... More over Kimi was leading in that GP, but his engine blew up (Schumacher didn´t have any technical failure during whole season).
So considering all of this, he is well deserved champion...
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Kimi is just the lord of F1. Simply amazing pure talent. Since Kimi left I have stopped watching F1. He was my favorite driver same as Barri was.
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 14th 2011,00:12:16 )
Since Kimi left I have stopped watching F1.
same for me was with Niki Lauda
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Always found it strange how people get so attached to drivers. It doesn't bother me too much who is driving the cars as long as there are interesting battles going on and good talent on show. the face behind the helmet doesn't mean so much to me, at a push I do like outspoken drivers with a bit of personality. Senna, Irvine and yes probably Jacques too. I think he's wide of the mark with his comments on Kimi though. He won six races that season iirc and that was more than anyone else. Massa is talented but he's never had the consistency of someone like Kimi. Felipe is a confidence driver. When it's not going right, he tends to go missing.
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for me.. all of those who won the title are deserving.. its not about being lucky, its all about keeping the hope alive, even if you're down by a huge margin. you still keep pushing until the lights are out. that's what he did. and when the curtain closes. he won it. the same with the current F1 season, vettel has a large margin. but what? hammy, jb, fa, etc. all of them are still pushing, they are not waiting for a LUCK! they are just piling up the pressure to the leader to make a mistake and get as much points as possible. they will all fight until the end. that's the Essence of true champion. there will be no regret even if they loose the fight. because they tried their best..
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Quote ( Anthony Bumalay @ August 14th 2011,00:59:14 )
for me.. all of those who won the title are deserving.. its not about being lucky,
Unless you're James Hunt.
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Quote ( Lee Ifans @ August 14th 2011,00:33:06 )
Always found it strange how people get so attached to drivers
I see it the similar like with football teams or ice hockey teams. The point is, if you have some driver as the favourite one, the race is bit more spicy for you than if you are just watching the action without following anybody.
If you watch the world cup final - and your favourite team is part of it - the game gets more exciting to you.
Quote ( Anthony Bumalay @ August 14th 2011,00:59:14 )
for me.. all of those who won the title are deserving.. its not about being lucky
Sometimes the winner is even unlucky.....Jochen Rindt
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Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ August 14th 2011,07:23:10 )
If you watch the world cup final - and your favourite team is part of it
Canada or Wales... :D
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Quote ( Lee Ifans @ August 14th 2011,07:59:33 )
Canada or Wales... :D
well, some fans are masochists :P
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Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ August 14th 2011,00:14:13 )
Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 14th 2011,00:12:16 )
Since Kimi left I have stopped watching F1.
same for me was with Niki Lauda
You stopped watching at 16 years old ?
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ August 13th 2011,07:12:43 )
Well, he didn't luck into his title, unlike Kimi, who should thank Lewis and Fernando for his.
Here are some basic facts:
1) Kimi had reliability isues in 2007 (I recall Spain and Nurburgring) while Lewis and Alonso had a bulletproof Mclaren, no reliability problems whatsoever.
2) Kimi won 6 gp's in 2007 while Hamilton & Alonso only won 4 each. Massa only 3.
3) If Massa deserved the title more than Kimi he should've beaten him a races such as France, Belgium.
4) Raikkonen could've been a triple champion alongside Lauda, Senna, Stawart, Piquet and Brabham. I recall 2003 and 2005.
5) Jacques was lucky that he received a dominant car early in his career. Hill beat him convincingly in 1996, and in 1997 he nearly lost to Schumacher who had clearly inferior machinery.
6) Villeneuve did nothing in the next 9 years. Not a thing.
Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ August 13th 2011,20:04:35 )
He's a bit money-faced too, only wanted to return if the car is capable of winning and the wages was good to him. That's one reason why I really don't like him, money isn't everything.
Villeneuve went to BAR in 1999 for the money, and screwed up his own career. Don't call Kimi a moneyface.
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F1 is poorer without KR, hope he makes a come back but then again it might be too late!
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Quote ( Chintaka Rajapakse @ August 15th 2011,05:50:21 )
F1 is poorer without KR, hope he makes a come back but then again it might be too late!
One driver doesn't make the series great, no one driver is bigger than the sport.
Quote ( Jonathan Seifort @ August 15th 2011,04:39:22 )
Villeneuve went to BAR in 1999 for the money, and screwed up his own career. Don't call Kimi a moneyface.
Yeah, JV is one too, but Kimi's just the same, maybe just more. Don't really like the guy anyway...
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#169 dikirim Ogo 15 2011, 13:50:21 (terakhir disunting Ogo 15 2011, 13:50:54 oleh Steven Hill)
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ August 15th 2011,13:45:08 )
One driver doesn't make the series great, no one driver is bigger than the sport.
Try telling that to Hamilton or Vettel, although I must admit Hamilton is becoming more humble.
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ August 15th 2011,13:45:08 )
One driver doesn't make the series great, no one driver is bigger than the sport.
No but they're important, in Britain F1 would lose half its fans if Hamilton retired next week, a lot of new fans are fickle and will only support one driver if they're winning.
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ August 15th 2011,13:56:57 )
No but they're important, in Britain F1 would lose half its fans if Hamilton retired next week, a lot of new fans are fickle and will only support one driver if they're winning
Yes, they are important for sure, we still need them, but they're not bigger than the sport. And that includes Ferrari, no matter what they want to say.
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Not totally stopped Alin, but not that I cared who won and who didnt.
Kimi is known for his ICE MAN reputation but without him the F1 world doesnt seem to be the same anymore...for me at least.
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I have never really cared for Kimi. He's always struck me as selfish and completely ungrateful for the opportunities he was given.
He was a bad ambassador for F1 during his time as champion, I cant remember him ever doing anything for the fans. The thing that seals it for me is a video on Youtube of him barging past a small child asking for an autograph.
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Quote ( Ross Murison @ August 16th 2011,13:10:02 )
The thing that seals it for me is a video on Youtube of him barging past a small child asking for an autograph.
You mean the video with the crazy mother is chasing Kimi and not even realising she had pushed her child over?
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ September 20th 2011,00:15:27 )
it looks like he's lost interest in WRC since he didn't go to Australia because "it was far away".
Um... F1 races in Melbourne. Oh I get it now he didn't want to go that far just to drive a WRC car but he's happy to go that far to drive a F1 car.
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#177 dikirim Sep 20 2011, 00:33:53 (terakhir disunting Sep 20 2011, 00:34:04 oleh Tim Reeve)
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Richard hit the nail on the head, if he cant be bothered with WRC, why bother with F1?
It'll just be bad for Williams if he joins cause KR will only want an extortionate wage for a top notch car and if he doesn't get that then he'll be off again within 2 seasons.
It'll be a bad move by Williams, they should keep Barrichello and Maldonado.
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the almighty return of Kimi Raikkonen would be big for advertisements and investments alike.
Though Kimi's dedication would be put into question, the money williams would make from him going in would be substantial..
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ September 20th 2011,00:15:27 )
it looks like he's lost interest in WRC since he didn't go to Australia because "it was far away".
...and got a money penalty because he did not. Looks like his "I was having a sh*t" attitude came up there again.
Well, what should one expect? He spends more time in the woods and down the road than actually driving a rally:P
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Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ September 20th 2011,00:38:48 )
the money williams would make from him going in would be substantial..
Would it though? Who wants to risk putting money into a man who cant quite be bothered to get a plane to go to a race he's contracted for...
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