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Should Tobacco Advertising be allowed in Formula 1?
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In the end we will be all dead (hopeful.. actually more than 5% of people who were born never died!)...
And with these governments, poor...
So.. pick your drugs, gentlemen, and enjoy the ride...
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Quote ( Grant Crouch @ June 18th 2012,00:27:07 ) If they do, that's their problem and can't be blamed on the sport.
Quote ( Robert Enright @ June 18th 2012,03:40:02 )
If people want to smoke that's their choice. You can't stop them.
Everything is dangerous these days, I can't think of anything that doesn't give you cancer.
If this is the logic, then why illegalise anything at all? Make everything from Heroin, Cocaine, Methadone to Cannabis, LSD, GHB and Ecstasy legal. After all, if someone takes it, its their problem isn't it? Free will ftw!
The problem with "free choice" when it comes to drugs, as well as tobacco is that there is no "free choice" in practice. The stuff is addictive, which removes free choice out of the picture completely. I'd rather have the choice dictated by government policies rather than the addictive properties of the substances.
Quote ( Robert Enright @ June 18th 2012,03:40:02 ) We all know how awful they are. But if they're legal then they should be given full rights for their legality surely? If not then just ban them.
Because of historical legacy of tobacco. If the stuff were to be invented today, it would certainly have been banned without any debate...
I remain optimistic that eventually tobacco will be banned in most countries, but in order to do that, the count of population which is using tobacco must drop, which can be achieved only by continually strangulating the industry from high taxes and advertisement bans. If it doesn't then all the ban will achieve is make the existing addicts criminals...
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Quote ( Chinmay Dhopate @ June 18th 2012,06:14:15 ) If this is the logic, then why illegalise anything at all?
You know, why not? Do you understand how well this could stimulate an economy if done correctly? If you regulate it and tax the hell out of it, then yeah, legalize it.
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If anyone thinks it is alright for Drug Dealers to advertise their product Anywhere they are sadly mistaken.
If anyone thinks it is alright for Drug Dealers to glamorize their product using F1 they are also very, very wrong.
Anyone trying to justify such actions in this thread is most likely an addict anyway trying to justify their right to choose whilst denying their own dependency.
Wake Up!
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Quote ( Grant Crouch @ June 18th 2012,09:13:22 ) You know, why not? Do you understand how well this could stimulate an economy if done correctly? If you regulate it and tax the hell out of it, then yeah, legalize it.
and then less people could probably do it.
Quote ( Grant Crouch @ June 18th 2012,09:13:22 )
If anyone thinks it is alright for Drug Dealers to advertise their product Anywhere they are sadly mistaken.
If anyone thinks it is alright for Drug Dealers to glamorize their product using F1 they are also very, very wrong.
Anyone trying to justify such actions in this thread is most likely an addict anyway trying to justify their right to choose whilst denying their own dependency.
i must be a drug addict hehe
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ June 18th 2012,13:23:24 ) i must be a drug addict hehe
If you don't smoke but advocate Tobacco Advertising then that makes you accessory to a drug dealer.
Which is worse?
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ June 18th 2012,13:29:26 ) If you don't smoke but advocate Tobacco Advertising then that makes you accessory to a drug dealer.Which is worse?
Fantastic!!!!!!!
i gave my mate a fag, does that make me a dealer?
If so call the cops ive been busted lol
That has to be one of the most stupid comments i have ever seen. No offense Chris
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Quote ( Lee Downing @ June 18th 2012,14:08:31 ) That has to be one of the most stupid comments i have ever seen. No offense Chris
Nicotine IS a drug. Who's the stupid one? No offence...
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Quote ( Lee Downing @ June 18th 2012,14:08:31 ) Fantastic!!!!!!!
i gave my mate a fag, does that make me a dealer?
If so call the cops ive been busted lol
That has to be one of the most stupid comments i have ever seen. No offense Chris
Nicotine = drug.
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Giving your mate a fag = Deal.
:D
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Bloody Nestle must be the biggest drug dealer ever then :|
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ June 18th 2012,14:19:21 ) Bloody Nestle must be the biggest drug dealer ever then :|
No no, It's definitely the Cola Company :P
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ June 18th 2012,14:19:21 ) Bloody Nestle must be the biggest drug dealer ever then :|
Maybe. But, in context, you are far less like to die from drinking Nescafe than smoking Marlboro.
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Ah yes, how did I miss that!
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ June 18th 2012,14:15:04 ) Nicotine IS a drug. Who's the stupid one? No offence...
So is aspirin!!!
your point being?
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Chris, I maybe wrong but isn't the damage by cigarettes caused by the tar and not the nicotine? In other words the drug itself is not the problem...as with other drugs (in normal doses).
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Quote ( Lee Downing @ June 18th 2012,14:23:11 ) your point being?
You are confusing the issue with legality. Not all drugs are illegal as you rightly point out. But many drugs are highly addictive and dangerous. These are generally classed as narcotics and are (in most countries) illegal.
Asprin will cure a headache with only 1 in 1,000,000 takers suffering any side effect.
Nicotine will serve no advantage to it's taker at all (apart from relieving the craving left from the last smoke they had) and almost always result in an adverse side effect.
If Asprin want to advertise on an F1 car it would be hard for anyone to object.
Tobacco is a narcotic serves no purpose in intelligent society.
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Quote ( Chinmay Dhopate @ June 18th 2012,06:14:15 ) I remain optimistic that eventually tobacco will be banned in most countries, but in order to do that, the count of population which is using tobacco must drop, which can be achieved only by continually strangulating the industry from high taxes and advertisement bans. If it doesn't then all the ban will achieve is make the existing addicts criminals...
You make a good point and a better logical arguement, but the problem is raising taxes is actually bad for the governments, black markets dealers will thrive like they are already doing here in Ireland! So that's not the solution. :/
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You know what really pisses me off? Formula 1 advertising on cigarette packets....they should ban that if you ask me!
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If sum one said put your hand in the fire would you do it ?
NO
Same as smoking it's up to the person to put smoke in his or her lungs
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#170 dikirim Jun 18 2012, 14:47:03 (terakhir disunting Jun 18 2012, 14:47:59 oleh Chris Lee)
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Quote ( Jensen Owens @ June 18th 2012,14:43:43 ) If sum one said put your hand in the fire would you do it ?
NO
Same as smoking it's up to the person to put smoke in his or her lungs
You will find it much easier to stop putting your hand in the fire than you would to stop smoking though ;)
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#171 dikirim Jun 18 2012, 14:49:18 (terakhir disunting Jun 18 2012, 14:49:29 oleh Jon Day)
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ June 18th 2012,14:47:03 ) You will find it much easier to stop putting your hand in the fire than you would to stop smoking though ;) I dont know, i'm up to putting my hand in the fire about 20 times a day now! :P
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Excuse the profanity, but my opinion still stands.
As for the real topic at hand - for the sake of consistency, alcohol advertisement needs to get at least the same treatment the cigarette industry gets.
What happens instead? Low alcohol sweet drinks get put on lower shelves in the store, so they are mora accessible to age groups which shouldn't be consuming them.
Small bottles of hard liquor are found around the cashier, so an alcoholic has all the time in the world to change his mind about not drinking anymore while waiting in line.
Whiskey brands get to advertise on fast moving cars.
Vodka adverts get played during the prime time of television.
It's so hypocritical, it hardly gets better.
PS: I am not in favor of banning alcohol advertisement either.
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I couldn't care less about the advertising. Yes the products aren't great, but its more the fault of the people that can't enjoy things in moderation that make it such an issue for everyone else.
Where will the banning stop? Ok tobacco and alcohol harm people, but then we allow oil companies and such to advertise and look at the pollution and other issues that are caused by them and the environment.
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So i take it you smoke then Chris lol
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#176 dikirim Jun 18 2012, 16:10:15 (terakhir disunting Jun 18 2012, 16:10:33 oleh Maz West)
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If you're talking about health, not like racing is healthy with all those FUMES. Can't see why it was taken out in the first place.
Non-smoker by the way
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ouh yes, I made it a tie :D
Yes
150 (50%)
No
150 (50%)
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ June 18th 2012,13:21:21 ) If anyone thinks it is alright for Drug Dealers to advertise their product Anywhere they are sadly mistaken.
If anyone thinks it is alright for Drug Dealers to glamorize their product using F1 they are also very, very wrong.
Anyone trying to justify such actions in this thread is most likely an addict anyway trying to justify their right to choose whilst denying their own dependency.
Wake Up!
Nedherlands is civilized country or not in your opinion?
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Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 18th 2012,14:15:13 ) Nicotine = drug.
Cofeine=drug....Giving to friend coffee=drug dealer
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ June 18th 2012,14:35:18 ) You are confusing the issue with legality. Not all drugs are illegal as you rightly point out
Name me country where nicotine is illegal please.
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