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Kiriman lama #1 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:38:32 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 16:40:25 oleh Ivan Salfa) Sebut 
Practice Sessions & Qualy could have a small effect on the car in terms of wear.
For Qualy, this wear could further depend on the Q risks used.

Gives a small extra managment touch to P & Q events.
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Kiriman lama #2 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:42:05 Sebut 
No
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Kiriman lama #3 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:44:12 Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,16:38:32 )

Practice Sessions & Qualy could have a small effect on the car in terms of wear.
For Qualy, this wear could further depend on the Q risks used.

Gives a small extra managment touch to P & Q events.


Adds some extra whining from people who can not calculate the setup. ;)
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Kiriman lama #4 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:47:28 Sebut 
Quote ( Mattias Svensson @ December 7th 2012,16:44:12 )

Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,16:38:32 )

Practice Sessions & Qualy could have a small effect on the car in terms of wear.
For Qualy, this wear could further depend on the Q risks used.

Gives a small extra managment touch to P & Q events.

Adds some extra whining from people who can not calculate the setup. ;)
Quote ( Mattias Svensson @ December 7th 2012,16:44:12 )

Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,16:38:32 )

Practice Sessions & Qualy could have a small effect on the car in terms of wear.
For Qualy, this wear could further depend on the Q risks used.

Gives a small extra managment touch to P & Q events.

Adds some extra whining from people who can not calculate the setup. ;)


you are right
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Kiriman lama #5 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:48:44 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 16:49:01 oleh Daneks Britāls) Sebut 
Good idea. Also we must have option to kick competitors out of track for some acceptable cash. Or make another 100 test laps for just 1m and same wear....Let's go for it! Good idea!

Quote ( Mattias Svensson @ December 7th 2012,16:44:12 )

Adds some extra whining from people who can not calculate the setup. ;)


Driver can calculate it himself. Why I should blow my head?
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Kiriman lama #6 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:50:25 Sebut 
Probably one of the worst ideas ever...
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Kiriman lama #7 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:50:54 Sebut 
Quote ( Mattias Svensson @ December 7th 2012,16:44:12 )

Adds some extra whining from people who can not calculate the setup. ;)


This. Don't force us to do calculations'n'stuff. What next, long-term planning and thinking!?
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Kiriman lama #8 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:52:21 Sebut 
Its already tough enough...just a useless addition if it were ever added.
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Kiriman lama #9 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:53:08 Sebut 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ December 7th 2012,16:48:44 )

Driver can calculate it himself. Why I should blow my head?


Trial and error, and now you will have to pay for him to play around with the car and tell you what is not a good setup. :P
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Kiriman lama #10 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:53:17 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 16:55:28 oleh Ivan Salfa) Sebut 
Wear will be almost insignificant in any case. Something like 0.something points per Practice lap. As for Qualy, Push the car to the limits could wear the car as if using very 100CT risks for 1 lap
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Kiriman lama #11 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 16:54:45 Sebut 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ December 7th 2012,16:48:44 )

Driver can calculate it himself. Why I should blow my head?
Brilliant :D
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Kiriman lama #12 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:03:51 Sebut 
Well that didnt go down well... :)
I guess if you have cracked the code.. why should it beat you back?

Next.
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Kiriman lama #13 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:08:30 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 17:18:06 oleh Mattias Svensson) Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,17:03:51 )

Well that didnt go down well... :)
I guess if you have cracked the code.. why should it beat you back?

Next.


Actually I´m with you that we need to get some drastic change that requires some new thinking to how we play, but this would not be the most popular i think. New tyre type has been discussed, (intermediates) and I would favour that.
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Kiriman lama #14 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:17:48 Sebut 
Bad idea I think.what I think they should do with qualifying is charge everyone something like 5 mill at the start of the season so all practice and q1 and q2 are paid for if u use them or not
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Kiriman lama #15 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:22:52 Sebut 
No, but i think drivers should risk a crash and set a very poor lap time if too much risk is used compared to driver skills (way more than the current dm anyway).
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Kiriman lama #16 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:30:03 Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,16:53:17 )

Wear will be almost insignificant in any case.


Wear is never insignificant.
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Kiriman lama #17 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:34:25 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 17:35:01 oleh Ivan Salfa) Sebut 
Quote ( Sion Francis @ December 7th 2012,17:30:03 )

Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,16:53:17 )

Wear will be almost insignificant in any case.

Wear is never insignificant.


Typical forum sentence picking, short span reader, prone to miscomprehending posts, user. :p
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Kiriman lama #18 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:35:57 Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,17:34:25 )


Typical forum sentence picking, short span picky reader, prone to miscomprehending posts, user. :p


Wear is never insignificant. Whether it's 1% or 0.1%, additional car wear is a very very big deal. And if you don't understand why think about it.
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Kiriman lama #19 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:37:54 Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,17:34:25 )

Typical forum sentence picking, short span picky reader, prone to miscomprehending posts, user. :p


He pointed out the sentence that ruins the whole idea, which is the most effective way of using the quote button imo.
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Kiriman lama #20 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:38:16 Sebut 
I don't see the point in having wear for Practice and Qualifying, as the people most harmed by this are the people lower down the GPRO pyramid. The only way this could work is if it only appiled to quaifying laps and was based on qualifying risks (but even then, it still wouldn't be very useful)

Also, why are the options in German?
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Kiriman lama #21 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 17:38:38 Sebut 
Was just joking Wales man :)
Besides, the point of this suggestion is based on the excact fact, that wear is totaly significant!
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Kiriman lama #22 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 18:54:09 Sebut 
**Yawning
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Kiriman lama #23 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 19:26:14 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 19:26:38 oleh Phil Maunder) Sebut 
Car wear for practice laps? Come on mate get our heads up, there's a recession on don't ya know. We're already paying 50k per lap, pro-rata that & it's like a 100 lap test session that costs 5m, & now car wear on top? Maniac :)
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Kiriman lama #24 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 19:33:40 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2012, 19:34:54 oleh Kevin Parkinson) Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,17:38:38 )

Besides, the point of this suggestion is based on the excact fact, that wear is totaly significant!


So the suggestion is based on a mistaken hypothesis.

As Sion says, wear is significant. How do you propose to work out a perfect set up if it changes every lap? :)

Implementing your suggestion would be a massive advantage for those that can already do that without practice laps over new players who will find it much harder to work out the same thing.
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Kiriman lama #25 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 22:10:21 Sebut 
NEIN MEIN GRUBER!!
=)
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Kiriman lama #26 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 22:11:27 Sebut 
NO!
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Kiriman lama #27 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 22:14:46 Sebut 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ December 7th 2012,16:38:32 )

Practice Sessions & Qualy could have a small effect on the car in terms of wear.For Qualy, this wear could further depend on the Q risks used.Gives a small extra managment touch to P & Q events.


there are teams that have calculators that give a perfect setup with the click of a button, so this idea just puts new players and teams without calculators at a disadvantage.
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Kiriman lama #28 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 22:25:53 Sebut 
Do we really need this crap?
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Kiriman lama #29 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 22:45:00 Sebut 
pušitb kitu
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Kiriman lama #30 dikirim Dis 7 2012, 22:46:13 Sebut 
Quote ( Asen Poličnik @ December 7th 2012,22:45:00 )

pušitb kitu


Sums it up nicely, I think.
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