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#1 dikirim Dis 7 2015, 23:56:46
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Did a quick search, can't find anything about this in the Forum, and the rules and FAQ didn't give me anything.
In the race analysis section, do the figures for tyre wear and fuel left at finish take into account if I was 1 or more laps behind the leader?
Example: In a 78 lap race I finish 1 lap behind the winner, are the figures for tyre wear and fuel left at finish valid for a full 78 lap race or only for the 77 laps I did?
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#2 dikirim Dis 7 2015, 23:58:27 (terakhir disunting Dis 8 2015, 00:05:18 oleh Daniel Mason)
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Did you check the Wiki?
http://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Race_Analysis
It doesn't really answer the question, but the Race Analysis screen does assume you've crossed the finish line at full distance, no matter how many laps you are down to the race winner.
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#3 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 00:03:49
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But to answer your question 78 laps.
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#4 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 00:05:51
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No, I didn't, obviously... :-|
Thanks, Daniel, that makes it clear.
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#5 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 00:06:00
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ponA got in the short answer before I could edit :p
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#6 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 00:09:21
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The whole laps behind thing is a bit like special relativity, your car experiences the full 78 laps but an observer on a train going in the opposite direction with a stopwatch only sees you do 77 laps, and when he returns he marries your great-great-granddaughter
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#7 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 00:11:44 (terakhir disunting Dis 8 2015, 00:12:03 oleh Daniel Mason)
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The whole laps behind thing is more to determine, in Amateur and above, whether or not you'll get the full allotted prize money.
Quote ( Roland Postle  @ December 8th 2015,00:09:21 ) when he returns he marries your great-great-granddaughter
Did he at least go 88 miles per hour across the finish line?
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#8 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 00:15:45
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Quote ( Roland Postle @ December 8th 2015,00:09:21 ) and when he returns he marries your great-great-granddaughter I hate it when that happens.
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#9 dikirim Dis 8 2015, 14:52:10 (terakhir disunting Dis 8 2015, 14:53:09 oleh Klas Britse)
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Lol
Roland, I'll take that into consideration when calculating the wear and fuel consumption. The Doppler effect too, of course.
Interesting, I didn't know i was going to have a great great granddaughter... :-)
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Quote ( Klas Britse @ December 8th 2015,14:52:10 ) Interesting, I didn't know i was going to have a great great granddaughter... :-)
Yeah - in the year 3000 (to keep the pop culture references going)
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The fuel and tyre wear at the finish is for 77 laps. The laps you see in the race analysis is the laps of the leader
Example: you are 3 laps behind the leader and you go to pit stop 2 laps before the finish, your pilot stop in the lap 76/78 (lap of leader), but you make 73 laps in this moment.
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Quote ( Edgar Britos @ December 8th 2015,17:28:37 ) The fuel and tyre wear at the finish is for 77 laps. The laps you see in the race analysis is the laps of the leader
Example: you are 3 laps behind the leader and you go to pit stop 2 laps before the finish, your pilot stop in the lap 76/78 (lap of leader), but you make 73 laps in this moment.
No.
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I was going to make a thread about this, but first I did a search in the forum as I've been usually told! and found somethijng very similar from far ago.
it seems nobody cared about this a couple of years ago, so I think the same will happen again now.
but... who knows... so...
it is not real that if a driver has lost 2 or 3 laps, the fuel consumption and the tyre wear are the same as if he were on the same lap as the leader.
If a car is a couple of laps behind the leader, it means he has not completed the same amount of laps as the ones in front. So how is it possible that the tyre wear and fuel consumption is as if the car has raced all the laps?
Is there a possibility to change this? I know it is not a decisive factor, but maybe some can take advantage of this in their strategy. For example, If I know the leader will be way ahead and I will end 1 or 2 laps behind, maybe I can plan my strategy with a race with 1 or 2 fewer laps, and make 1 stop less.
That happened today… I’ve planned the race with only two stops… one every 19 laps… that gives 57 laps. And Mugello has 58. But I knew I was going to be far behind (in fact, I ended 3 laps behind the leader). So there was no problem as I would have raced only 55 laps… but no… I ended up pitting at the 57. Not real.
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Quote ( Martin Zonca @ May 14th 2019,21:59:44 ) That happened today… I’ve planned the race with only two stops… one every 19 laps… that gives 57 laps. And Mugello has 58.
That is sad. Would be better to fuel up for the whole race
I'd think after some 580 races you'd recognize that it was your mistake
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Sorry but I am going to sound like a dick here. You have 35 seasons of experience, been to Master (twice), and today you find out about one of the most basic aspects of how GPRO works? I guess we never stop learning. :)
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Quote ( Martin Zonca @ May 14th 2019,21:59:44 ) Not real.
Not really.
GPRO just doesn't use the "the race finishes for lapped cars on the same lap as the leader" rule. All cars race until they've completed 100% distance. It's not that it's not real, it's just a different rule ;)
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Oooooh, this was so long ago. :)
But now I know the answer to my question from my own experience since long.
But still no sign of a great great granddaughter.
Oh, wait, it's still 980 years and a few months left.
Will have to go looking for the well of youth to experience that.
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ May 14th 2019,23:04:31 ) it's just a different rule I think it's good and logical.
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Looking at the race analysis and the new race screen will confirm the number of laps completed by each car. The race screen is 'live' until "Joe Mugello" in 40th position 5 minutes and 4 laps behind the leader crosses the finish line. Unfortunately, in Last place. :)
It appears to me that all cars in a race are driven to the final lap unless Technical Problems drop them out of the race.
I could be wrong, however in my experience that has been the data that resulted. 78 laps in a 78 lap race with wear and fuel delivered over 78 laps regardless of the deficit in laps to the leader.
Even a last lap pit-stop will put you back on the track to finish the race regardless of the deficit to the winner, who finished 3 laps ago.
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