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Kiriman lama #1 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:14:21 (terakhir disunting Okt 12 2020, 12:56:23 oleh Kevin Parkinson) Sebut 
Who is the better driver?

MOD EDIT - Edit title to include the driver names and edited OP to be more than just "?"
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Kiriman lama #2 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:16:31 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 16:16:43 oleh Sudeep Pednekar) Sebut 
Oh dear, not this question.
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Kiriman lama #3 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:16:45 Sebut 
none of the above should be an option too

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Kiriman lama #4 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:18:35 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 16:24:43 oleh Geir Pukk) Sebut 
You could have at least tried to give this thread a proper title and first post....now it's all bad, just like the question you've asked.
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Kiriman lama #5 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:24:23 Sebut 
Equal - they both dominated their era.

But if Hamilton can keep winning he is clearly going to hold all the records and be better, statistically.
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Kiriman lama #6 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:47:22 Sebut 
Quote ( Geir Pukk @ October 11th 2020,16:18:35 )

You could have at least tried to give this thread a proper title and first post....now it's all bad, just like the question you've asked.


what would be the fun in that?
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Kiriman lama #7 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:49:54 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 17:04:49 oleh Josh Clark) Sebut 
What a strange comparison.

I may be a little biased being from the UK, so sorry to all the haters, but I think Hamilton every single time.



Their brushed steel dimmer switches just look brilliant in any new-build and I fitted a couple of them in a customer's german-style kitchen not too long ago and they were over the moon. The screwless etrium bronze 2 gangs also work really well with a nice cream wall finish, and are very reasonably priced. https://www.hamilton-litestat.com/media/5516/2.jpg?anchor=ce...

Not used a Schumacher car battery charger but I've heard great things about them from European friends. I'm sure they're the dogs bollocks but I've got this tiny portable one from Genius which can do 10-12 jumps and it was cheap as chips, so I doubt I'd ever need a Schumacher product.



Again though, not sure why we're comparing socket and switch plates with car battery chargers.

E: added image for context. Beautiful switch plate.
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Kiriman lama #8 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:52:57 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 16:55:07 oleh Luke Frost) Sebut 
Quote ( Josh Clark @ October 11th 2020,16:49:54 )

Their brushed steel dimmer switches just look brilliant in any new-build and I fitted a couple of them in a customer's german-style kitchen not too long ago and they were over the moon. The screwless etrium bronze 2 gangs also work really well with a nice cream wall finish, and are very reasonably priced.


Congratz Josh but I don't know what the hell this has to do with Hamilton vs Schumi debate :D

That was random as hell :D
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Kiriman lama #9 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:57:41 Sebut 
Quote ( Luke Frost @ October 11th 2020,16:52:57 )


but I don't know what the hell this has to do with Hamilton vs Schumi debate :D
That was random as hell :D

c'mon frosty what did u expect from Hamilton's fans
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Kiriman lama #10 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 16:58:46 Sebut 
This is silly,
Gretzky is the only correct choice.
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Kiriman lama #11 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:01:35 Sebut 
Alain Prost. :)
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Kiriman lama #12 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:03:37 Sebut 
And you forgot a 9-Times Champion.
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Kiriman lama #13 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:05:38 Sebut 
That one
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Kiriman lama #14 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:09:13 Sebut 
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Kiriman lama #15 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:14:24 Sebut 
Hamilton!

schumacher didn't really have any competitors in his time (even if it was a great champion too)

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Kiriman lama #16 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:46:49 Sebut 
Quote ( Jean-marc Boissinot @ October 11th 2020,17:14:24 )

Hamilton!

schumacher didn't really have any competitors in his time (even if it was a great champion too)



I would have said the exact opposite
Schumacher had Hill, Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Coulthard, Raikkonen, Ralf, Montoya, Barrichello, Alonso all who were capable of beating him at some point in his career. He probably had the best car in 94,95,00,01,02,03,04
Hamilton had the best car in 07,08,10,14,15,16,17,18,19,20. Throughout his career he has only really had to deal with Raikkonen, Massa, Vettel, Webber, Button, Alonso and Rosberg. Hamilton has won pretty much half the races between 14-20, with only Rosberg ever coming close to him, and Vettel for a short period. Schumacher did his dominance in 00-04 while having to compete with all the drivers i mentioned minus Hill and Villeneuve

Am i saying Hamilton doesn't deserve the record, no, because he is a great driver, is he better than Schumacher, debatable i would say not, has his car helped him a lot, yes, maybe a little more than Schumacher, but both are probably equally as good as eachother, but comparing different era's is foolish. Would Schumacher have done the same as Hamilton did, or would Hamilton do the same that Schumacher did in eachothers era's, who knows

Besides, Jim Clark and Senna were much better anyway
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Kiriman lama #17 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 17:51:29 Sebut 
Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 11th 2020,17:03:37 )

And you forgot a 9-Times Champion.


I agree.
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Kiriman lama #18 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 18:20:03 Sebut 
Button :P
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Kiriman lama #19 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 18:32:21 Sebut 
Not enough choices... If we consider only F1 drivers, you would have to add Fangio, P. Hill, Stewart, Prost, Senna...

Hard to make a choice. Not the same area, we aren't be able to compare...

Take Schumacher or Hamilton in the 50'... In their first crash, they would be dead... And nobody would know these drivers...



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Kiriman lama #20 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 19:48:43 Sebut 
Ayrton Senna is the best!!!!!!!!!!
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Kiriman lama #21 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 19:49:23 Sebut 
I need to pick one to see the poll results? :(
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Kiriman lama #22 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 20:24:25 Sebut 
It, s very close, Harsh

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Kiriman lama #23 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 20:27:35 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 20:28:20 oleh Dominik Karda) Sebut 
Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 11th 2020,17:03:37 )

And you forgot a 9-Times Champion.
Kinda sad that Valentino Rossi wasn't in the poll then :P
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Kiriman lama #24 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 20:33:23 Sebut 
People always forget about Jim Clark in these discussions :(
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Kiriman lama #25 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 21:01:14 Sebut 
Quote ( Dominik Karda @ October 11th 2020,20:27:35 )

Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 11th 2020,17:03:37 )

And you forgot a 9-Times Champion.
Kinda sad that Valentino Rossi wasn't in the poll then :P


Rossi doesn't count as a 9x champ.

I think he was referring to Loeb.
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Kiriman lama #26 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 21:04:13 Sebut 
Purely based on character and humility, Schumacher.
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Kiriman lama #27 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 21:12:51 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 21:31:53 oleh Mikko Heikkinen) Sebut 
Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ October 11th 2020,21:04:13 )

Purely based on character and humility, Schumacher.


What ? You mean the one so full of himself that when facing imminent loss he'd rather crash to opponent than admit loss

Character ? Humility ??


But tbh Hamilton is a similar kind of "Contract Champion", so the reply to OP question is: Neither

The thing is... both of them have had Contract guaranteed Champions for so long they have started to believe in their invincibility and immortality themselves (Much like Vettel was not long ago)

That being said, they are good or even great drivers, no denying that.

But... IF one is looking for a best driver, one might need to look further back...

Maybe to the time when Senna and The Professor Prost were going head to head at it... Although Senna did resort into similar tricks as Schumi
Or even further back when the drivers really drove cars instead of computers
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Kiriman lama #28 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 21:24:50 Sebut 
Schumacher in his time, Hamilton in ours. That simple
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Kiriman lama #29 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 22:49:45 Sebut 
A pool without Ivan Salfa dont worth my vote.
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Kiriman lama #30 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 23:28:42 Sebut 
Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ October 11th 2020,21:01:14 )

Quote ( Dominik Karda @ October 11th 2020,20:27:35 )

Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 11th 2020,17:03:37 )

And you forgot a 9-Times Champion.
Kinda sad that Valentino Rossi wasn't in the poll then :P


Rossi doesn't count as a 9x champ.

I think he was referring to Loeb.


I thought he was referring to Postle.
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