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Topik: extra tyre wear - mistake by driver |
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#1 dikirim Mei 8 2006, 13:41:57
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IMO, a drivers mistake should cause extra tyre wear,
maybe even in such a way that it leads to dropout when the tyres are close to 100% wear ( = 0% tyre condition).
What are others opinions about this?
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#2 dikirim Mei 8 2006, 14:28:43
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well...logically that makes no sense... when driver makes mistake hes not on full throttle all the time.... So actually he doesnt drive any extra distance, he just slows down for seconds....
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#3 dikirim Mei 8 2006, 14:42:46
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Maybe some extra wear, but it should be minimal. Not every mistake is equally damaging to the tyre. Considering the way the tyre wear system works it might be better if lap times would be slightly slower for the rest of a stint a driver made a mistake in. But not to big a difference. Also not for every mistake, cause some driver errors wouldn't damage the tyres at all. So this would create a more complicated system in driver mistakes.
Tyre wear leading to a possible dropout is to extreme I think.
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#4 dikirim Mei 8 2006, 17:14:09
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A mistake could be a wrong gear in a curve or something... that kind of mistake doesn´t add wear to the tyres.
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#5 dikirim Mei 8 2006, 20:05:22
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what about parts wear, some parts should get little extra wear after a pitstop, like breaks and engine dont get enuff cooling, prolonged pitstop can make massive damage to engine and brakes.
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#6 dikirim Mei 9 2006, 02:08:52
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Isn´t the longer pit time punishment enough, Mr. Simke? =P
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#7 dikirim Mei 9 2006, 07:28:16
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in pit the car dont get no damage, since theres no cooling needed while ur standing on N gear. And only thing that the brakes to at pit is cooling down...no damage there eithere.
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#8 dikirim Mei 9 2006, 09:13:12
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sometimes when the driver does an error , like locking up the brakes , he can have a wear spot on the tire, hence making the tire not perform as well after , and get worse as laps go by.
IMO , if you are going to implement such factors,, you will have to have specific errors,, and eventual outcomes for each error , wether it be a long term error that will get worse as laps go by,or an error that effects only 1 lap .
sounds very intersting Hans.. a good idea
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#9 dikirim Mei 9 2006, 09:14:58
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well...for making that, then you should work out whole different factor called "driver mistakes" which makes sure what kind of driver made, and thats pretty pointless....
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losing a few seconds on a lap has been done over and over and over in many games, with only the feedback
"your driver did an error" this does not explain anything, if you knew what type of error was made wether it be a mechanical , or driver error ,, you can improve upon it,,
it's is not always the driver that causes a mistake to be made,,
;;;; )
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well yea that would be nice to know, but car shouldnt get any "tyre damage" from that deal. Afterall if there is a system like that, the driver shouldnt DNF the race... not all the 4 tyres dont wear out at the same time right?
And ofcourse it would be nice if a problems during the race, like electronics error, traction system failure, throttle working error and so on. But imagine that it requiers some new scripts... not sure if they wanna work so hard on the game. But it sure would make the game neat.
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I agree with Hans
ask to Kimi last year in germany was?
very costly
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Having an accident a spin, or a ocked brake, DOES affect tyre wear..... FACT.
However......bearing in mind the way our fuel system works, suppose two cars collide, and one spins, lets suppose one car, through no fault of his own, spins 3 times, how much wear does he lose?
If he has to pit early, it will affect his fuel, and ruin his race, then it starts to move away from skill and towards luck.
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Chris
i did not understand
you say no affect in the game? or in real life?
spin or locked brake in real f1 affect
case Kimi as Marcos said
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Like I said above, " A mistake could be a wrong gear in a curve or something... that kind of mistake doesn´t add wear to the tyres".
It was never clear what kind of mistake the driver committed.
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Aren't there enough tyre problems right now ?:P
Me and my mate both ended up to pit due to the tyres. Mine had a blister or something which in other ways influenced my fuel for the race. It would have been like pitting 5 laps from the finish, but my engine and brakes decided to give up!
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@ Marcos
It was that way with kimi at germany because there was not allowed to change tyres during the race. One tyres to the end remember?
We can change tyres in this game...
@ Chris
All depends where he does the spin. Not all the track is covered with asphalt or is it.
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@Lauri
you can always chage tyres in f1 is a safety meassure
the thing off the matter it that a driving mistake(kimi´s) can affect seriusly your tyres or not?
i think yes
that was what I was trying to point out
regards
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Marcos, if this game takes all those little factors that influence times in real F!, the game would lose it's interest because there are o alt of factors to be taken into account. I think a driver allways makes mistakes in every lap, just that some are bigger than others and if you consider that by every mistake he makes the car takes some damage than you would not finish the race for sure. You think that if the game shows you tyres marks on the track it means that the error had something to do with the tyres? hahaha Also when you see smoke it has allways something to do with the engine? I think not
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Okay, I am convinced, that drivers mistake adding extra tyre wear is possibly not such a good idea... ;)
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