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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 11th 2012,22:50:55 ) We never did fall, till they came to push us :)
You mean Moggi, right?
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 11th 2012,22:52:20 ) You mean Moggi, right? I mean we were on top till we got blame of something and while Milan walked away with just some minus points thanks to Berlussconi we suffered the relegation.
Yet again, we're happy now past wont kill us.
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I saw now the match between Napoli and Juvetuns. After I read some comments in this thread I expected to see a real fight there in the pitch. I was disappointed :( It was just a regular match with very slippery surface.
I would like to know what Pandev said because the referees are cursed at least 100 times a match (and I am sure that also Juventus is cursing referees from time to time, I agree that not that often as the other team but still). And Zuniga was first hit and deserved a freekick. So if the referee would thing about the balance of a game (and could admit that he made the first mistake) would not give the second yellow.
As someone said. The referee was covered by the rules ... but not the spirit of the game ;)
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 13th 2012,09:22:57 ) And Zuniga was first hit and deserved a freekick. To be honest I think Vidal or whoever was did a clean job, and after that Zuniga went completely mad.
He played bad in first half too very bad and yet referee gave him only 1 yellow as his fouls were too harsh.
But Napoli played bad let's face it. They played like Street Fighter. They scored 2 goals from our mistakes and that's their history.
Although they could have scored one more as Bonucci did his 3rd mistake there.
Lucio isn't able to cover anyone tbh. He has lost much of his days.
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I don't like what many, many and many 'football fans' argue about Juventus matches.
When Juve wins = its because they cheat
When Juve loose = its because they played bad, or becuase others played well, or because they are shits!
This situation happens nearly every match!
Pls be honest.
Ball Possesion: Juventus 68%, Napoli 32%;
Shoots on Target/Total: Juventus 8/20, Napoli 6-12;
Balls Played: Juventus 946, Napoli 488;
Passes Completed: Juventus 75.5%, Napoli 51.7%;
Territorial Supremacy: Juventus 18':59", Napoli 06':16";
Attacking Area: Juventus 45.1%, Napoli 44.6%;
Defensive Area: Juventus 55.4%, Napoli 54.9%;
Dangerousness: Juventus 70.3%, Napoli 39%;
Fouls Made: Juventus 20, Napoli 21;
Coners: Juventus 7, Napoli 5
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Quote ( Gabriel Cardona @ August 13th 2012,10:48:22 ) Dangerousness: Juventus 70.3%, Napoli 39%
How does one count this?
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Quote ( Theo Panag @ August 13th 2012,10:52:44 ) How does one count this? Is counted by attacks you create like one on one for example. And every attack you make has a percentage, I think.
Just something I read once.
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Quote ( Theo Panag @ August 13th 2012,10:52:44 ) How does one count this?
I don't know but that's the statistics I found. It was written as 'Pericolosita' in italian.
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 13th 2012,10:29:15 ) To be honest I think Vidal or whoever was did a clean job, and after that Zuniga went completely mad.
do you agree that Vidal used his hands in the tackle against Vidal?
Quote ( Gabriel Cardona @ August 13th 2012,10:48:22 ) I don't like what many, many and many 'football fans' argue about Juventus matches.
When Juve wins = its because they cheat
When Juve loose = its because they played bad, or becuase others played well, or because they are shits!
if you are referring to my post I did not say anything related to the way Juve won. I was just mesmerized on how Samoeni saw the match. A kung fu match. And all of that. He stigmatized Juventus in this match when this was not necessary. It was a regular match. Probably both team players gave a little bit more because it was a trophy on the line.
But if you want to talk about statistics. I don't think those are very important against Napoli. They are counterattack team. So of course you will win all this statistic you have shown. In my opinion the man of the match was Buffon. He managed to save the team in several occasion.
Aside this. Are this statistic after 90 minutes or 120?
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 13th 2012,16:05:58 ) do you agree that Vidal used his hands in the tackle against Vidal? Zuniga?
No it was a clean fight body with body. I play football myself, and my shrt in the end of match is always bigger then it was at start. It's because everyone tries to keep you from shirt, meaning hands can be used till a point of course. But I think was fair fight. But what Zuniga did later is unforgiven. He goes staight at his legs, which can leave him even worse or injured for a long time. Thanks god, it did not happen.Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 13th 2012,16:05:58 ) It was a regular match. Probably both team players gave a little bit more because it was a trophy on the line. Me?
Sorry a specialist told that and Im telling you. he said maybe Pandev card could have been avoided but Napoli played too harsh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Xx2bHwzJk
This is how Napoli won years ago, call it a revenge by god.
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 13th 2012,16:05:58 ) Are this statistic after 90 minutes or 120?
The statistics are after 120 minutes, the full match. The statistics aren't the final result and sometimes the result isn't always in favour of the best team, but that is football. But in my honest opinion I think Juve deserved to win. I cannot comment on the red card given to Pandev because I don't know what comments he said. Both Zuniga's yellow cards were correct and Mazzarri's sent off was a little bit harsh. I think from 2 penalties we had, its justified that at least the ref gave us one :p
No I was not referring to you, I was referring to the italian guy who commented on page 82.
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Quote ( Gabriel Cardona @ August 13th 2012,10:48:22 ) I don't like what many, many and many 'football fans' argue about Juventus matches.
When Juve wins = its because they cheat
When Juve loose = its because they played bad, or becuase others played well, or because they are shits!
You Juve fans (most of you) are exactly the same, when you`re winning, "Oh, the team is brilliant, bring on Barcelona", when you draw or lose, it`s always bad luck, referees or something else, not that your opponent was perhaps better.
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,18:42:52 ) when you draw or lose, it`s always bad luck, referees or something else, not that your opponent was perhaps better. That's because we're fanatics, we can die for our team, is a CAUSE :)
Im not happy with Napoli perdormance. Okay we have a great midfield, but not great strikers. I am hoping Vucinic and Giovinco will proof me wrong.
Our defense has a lot of catch ups to do. Okay last season we had Europe's best defense 18 goals conceded but if Conte plays Lucio things wont be good. Bonnuci is a great defender but all this accuse thing has affect his form and he was really not in shape against Napoli.
Barzagli is WALL, so is Chiellini but when one is injured we always suffer. Caceres is injured too so in October he is expect to be back but till that time let's see how we do. Masi our 19 old defender is pure talent but needs some experience.
When we get beaten by lower teams means we have something we're not doing good so it's not the other team it's better, it's because we're bad that game.Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,18:42:52 ) "Oh, the team is brilliant, bring on Barcelona" It is like that cuz finally we see our old Juve getting back. And from what I remember we were good at beating Barca and especially Real :D
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 13th 2012,19:43:15 ) That's because we're fanatics, we can die for our team, is a CAUSE :)
It`s not a cause, it`s retarded.
Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 13th 2012,19:43:15 ) When we get beaten by lower teams means we have something we're not doing good so it's not the other team it's better, it's because we're bad that game.
See? You just proved my point. :P
Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 13th 2012,19:43:15 ) And from what I remember we were good at beating Barca and especially Real :D
You suck against English teams though.
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,19:47:40 ) See? You just proved my point. :P Come on same goes for Inter.
If in paper a team is superb then the other means the better team is having a bad day and makes look other team better.
They are better just because the better team is bad :)Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,19:47:40 ) You suck against English teams though. True fact.Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,19:47:40 ) It`s not a cause, it`s retarded. I was 5 when I first opened the TV to see a match and Juve showed on it :)
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 13th 2012,20:15:22 ) t English teams though.
True fact.
German teams too.
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,18:42:52 ) when you`re winning, "Oh, the team is brilliant, bring on Barcelona
There's a word for it, MOTIVATION. Every team when it's in form they are afraid of no one, even your Inter.
And in football, being the best doesn't mean you're invincible!! Every season Barcelona, Real Madrid, Utd, City, Chelsea, Inter, Milan, Bayern etc.... all suffered defeats against small teams.
Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ August 13th 2012,18:42:52 ) draw or lose, it`s always bad luck, referees or something else, not that your opponent was perhaps better.
And when a team looses, there could be a number of factors; bad performance, the other team could play incredibly well, mistakes made by the coach, luck, bad refeering, injuries etc....
According to the situation, I have no problem to say that Juve lost because they played poorly.
IT DOESN'T APLY ONLY FOR JUVE, IT APPLIES FOR ALL FOOTBALL TEAMS (including your Inter).
Football is cycle, we spent a period of 5-6 years in hell, now our term has come again. Is there something wrong about this? You won 2 scudettos on table and another 2 because there was no competent challenger to challenge for the title.
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ August 13th 2012,16:17:21 ) Zuniga?
No it was a clean fight body with body. I play football myself, and my shrt in the end of match is always bigger then it was at start. It's because everyone tries to keep you from shirt, meaning hands can be used till a point of course. But I think was fair fight. But what Zuniga did later is unforgiven. He goes staight at his legs, which can leave him even worse or injured for a long time. Thanks god, it did not happen.
every hand that is used should be punished with fault. and because you probably listen just to "specialist" that are fans of juventus. If you look closely at this video: http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/08/11/juventus-vs-napoli-... at 11:20 and than more closely at 11:40 that Vidal is putting the hands in front of Zuniga. If you can't accept that this is a fault than all your opinions related to Juventus are subjective. and really you should write only in Juventus forums because nobody can believe anything you write.
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there are 3 videos. I am referring to the first one
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,10:24:23 ) every hand that is used should be punished with fault
you mean every corner there must be a penalty!!!!!
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,10:24:23 ) at 11:20 and than more closely at 11:40 that Vidal is putting the hands in front of Zuniga
should be whistled as a foul. But the punch on Giovinco's chest is a yellow card offence, I don't know why this hastle :/
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,10:24:23 )
every hand that is used should be punished with fault. It never gets punished, in the most 75% cases does not.
Pandev got 2 weeks ban for swearing at referee. And he did nothign they say :/Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,10:24:23 ) If you can't accept that this is a fault than all your opinions related to Juventus are subjective. Im being objective, and that was not a faul. But what Zuniga did was double RED card.
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Quote ( Gabriel Cardona @ August 14th 2012,12:03:42 ) Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,10:24:23 )
at 11:20 and than more closely at 11:40 that Vidal is putting the hands in front of Zuniga
should be whistled as a foul. But the punch on Giovinco's chest is a yellow card offence, I don't know why this hastle :/
I am not saying that what Zuninga was good. It should receive a red card for that. But there was first fault on him. He would not get to do the fault if the referee would whistle the first fault. This was not regular hand as at corner. He put them in the direction of run of Zuniga. You should start look objectively at match.
I am putting this thread on ban because you can't accept something obvious. A referee made a mistake. I am corious what grade he received. You take it very personaly. A referee made mistake and the game went in one direction. Another curiosity that I have is how you would have threated this referee if this mistakes were takeb against Juve
Juventus could have win without this mistakes.
Bye. And have a nice juve thread. You should talk to the admins to change to juventus club. It would be more suitable.
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Juve thread??
It's not our problem people talk against our club. I will defend it in an objective way.
Sorry but you're the one taking it too personal.
Pandev was banned for his own actions and so was Zuniga. Omg, you are telling me that if referee would give the first foul Zuniga wouldn't do that!
Who cares about it, it's not our problem Zuniga can't hold his nerves.
Napoli have started thinking theirself soooo much high when actually they're quite down.
This is not about Juve, but you people can't deny the fact you hate Juventus and you make it look like we win only with refs and so on. Well, sorry for being the best team.
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Juve thread??
It's not our problem people talk against our club. I will defend it in an objective way.
Sorry but you're the one taking it too personal.
Pandev was banned for his own actions and so was Zuniga. Omg, you are telling me that if referee would give the first foul Zuniga wouldn't do that!
Who cares about it, it's not our problem Zuniga can't hold his nerves.
Napoli have started thinking theirself soooo much high when actually they're quite down.
This is not about Juve, but you people can't deny the fact you hate Juventus and you make it look like we win only with refs and so on. Well, sorry for being the best team.
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Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,10:24:23 ) specialist
http://www.calcionapoli24.it/?action=read&idnotizia=75225
Quote ( Milenco Ieremici @ August 14th 2012,15:44:33 ) A referee made a mistake. I am corious what grade he received.
Cesari would agree. I would venture to say that the article is pretty impartial. It does not discredit Juve at all. Really just looks at the consistency of the arbitrage
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Omg, our bench is better then Milan's for sure...Robinho is great player though.
Anyway, Luiggi is coming to us. Two trophies so far not bad.
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Welcome Pazzini.
Hope Kaka' will be the next.
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Cassano for Pazzini. And I though it couldn`t get any worse.
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