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Quote ( Marek Hajnrych @ November 22nd 2012,17:03:04 ) it's perfect temp for Duns ;-)
Yes, perfect! ;) Will be a simply nice race with a lot of smokers :)
Easier to take some point for the red zone.
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Quote ( Alex Peres @ November 22nd 2012,21:35:04 ) which skill/s of driver are for pushing?
I should say: FOBY :-)
Quote ( Peter Bartnik @ November 22nd 2012,18:35:57 ) keeping quiet, i hate smoking see you all next season :)
See You soon Peter and good luck next season, will be a lot of fun in front. Me, Alex, Maja, You, Javi (if retains), Pedro(edited :-)), Aleksey(?) will be fighting for promotion. Did I miss someone?
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Marek, I think you can take my name off the list, and put the Pedro Almeida.
I agree with you, the next season will be very tough, there will be lots of people fighting for the promotion places.
Will not be like this season, it was very weak.Krisztián had no competition,won easily.
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Quote ( Filipe Godinho @ November 22nd 2012,23:50:18 ) and put the Pedro Almeida.
.... what a snitch.
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Quote ( Filipe Godinho @ November 22nd 2012,23:50:18 ) I think you can take my name off the list
Why's that? Will You try promote this season? You have a chance. First, I don't belive that Krzysztof will end with positive money balance, and second, You have only 2 points for the fourth position.
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Quote ( Marek Hajnrych @ November 22nd 2012,23:55:39 ) Why's that? Will You try promote this season? You have a chance. First, I don't belive that Krzysztof will end with positive money balance, and second, You have only 2 points for the fourth position.
I do not want to, but I have no chance, Krzysztof has no chance to stay positive, but no problem, in the next season would be more difficult.
I'm going for smoke until the end of the season, no need to worry anymore,and save some money
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Quote ( Marek Hajnrych @ November 22nd 2012,23:55:39 ) irst, I don't belive that Krzysztof will end with positive money balance Quote ( Filipe Godinho @ November 23rd 2012,00:06:41 ) Krzysztof has no chance to stay positive
After the last race of the season the top 10 bonus is being rewarded to the top 10 managers in every group (look at point 5.4 above) after which we enter a small break, usually a week, but sometimes maybe more or less.
he is only 13 mil in debt.
if he remains on 3rd position he will get exactly after R17, 10.800.000 $
if he gets 4th position he will get 9 mil $ ( depends of Filipe,Aleksey and of course Raul ).
Let's see how much money can get in one race. Can he finish 90% of the race ? if yes, than he will get on +. not getting 90% ?? maybe he can get 1 mil per race +.
we will see.
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Alex, oops... You have right, I forgot about that. So there will be no extra promoting spot.
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Quote ( Alex Peres @ November 23rd 2012,08:49:47 ) he is only 13 mil in debt.
if he remains on 3rd position he will get exactly after R17, 10.800.000 $
You are a spoiler Alex.... :D
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#4269 geplaatst Nov 23 2012, 20:32:53 (laatst aangepast Nov 23 2012, 20:33:09 door Alex Peres)
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Quote ( Pedro Almeida @ November 23rd 2012,13:18:35 ) You are a spoiler Alex.... :D
i am involved in this situation.i don't want to promote now. i have bad car and money for master
i have to be a spoiler :P
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Alex can You please stop blocking me? :-)
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i have 0 risks at ot and df,sorry :(
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Hmm... Did I make so much bad quals or You guys did so good?
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wow... only 8th grid. interesting....
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Congrats Jesus, very very nice race.
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Seems like I will be the last of the promoters, didn't want it so much, but I found myself 3 races ago with low risks in podium finish...No problem :) , i'm almost ready! hope for a retain in my first season.
Good luck to all of you and Krisztian maybe is not our last season in the same group :D
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Krisztian, Raul - congrats and good luck in Master. I see your plans to meet in Elite are doing well. For me I had to postpone mines for a season or two :-)
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Kiełpiś, what are U doin' in my group forum? :-)
17 races, 11 different winners... Most bizarre PRO group I've ever seen.
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Tomasz is one good friend and rival of mine and Krisztian from amateurs.
Thanks for your message Tomek, hope I will be able to resist in master and see you in ellite :) good luck to everybody next season.
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Quote ( Marek Hajnrych @ December 1st 2012,01:23:04 ) 17 races, 11 different winners... Most bizarre PRO group I've ever seen.
+1, 9 points to be retain is huge... ans some of us who make podium are relegated...
Congratulation to the others (and mine) who were able to take opportunities at the good moment!
And I wish all the best to futures Master players !
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Ended.
Thx guys this season. It was an interesting and nice 4 season in pro 12.
Quote ( Raul Pantea @ November 28th 2012,19:40:56 ) Good luck to all of you and Krisztian maybe is not our last season in the same group :D
Hope too! ;)
Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ November 30th 2012,22:57:20 )
Krisztian, Raul - congrats and good luck in Master. I see your plans to meet in Elite are doing well. For me I had to postpone mines for a season or two :-)
Hi Tomek! Thank you, and push it like a hell to meet in elite :D
Quote ( Raul Pantea @ December 1st 2012,09:35:19 ) Tomasz is one good friend and rival of mine and Krisztian from amateurs.
That's right!
Quote ( Michel Lemaire @ December 1st 2012,11:33:45 ) And I wish all the best to futures Master players ! Thx Michel!
So good luck guys for the next season, and wish the best! and hope I see you soon!
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good luck to all the promoters ! it was an almost perfect season for me.i hope for a perfect next season !
good luck once again !
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Is time to say a few words...
First my thoughts goes to K. Volf, he showed easily how's done and without a fuzz, a totally demolish season, take my hat Volf, amazing season, not to much mistakes,, and taking the control when it needed, superb.
About the rest one thing did shock me a bit, we had a despromoting with 9 points, so this means this group is very balanced with the quality, what is good in one hand, but on the other hand will turned out to be unfair on some managers in future because they worked properly and might have to change next seson the pattern of work till now.
It will became a season 34 even more finest and hard for all of us, promoters, and believers on staying and those who are trying to avoid relagations, like the new comers, I must say this is one of the most if not the most hard group in Pro I ever had.
Congratz on the promoters and all the best.
Like all the best to all stayed and the new comers.
See you all in a week time.
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Quote ( Marek Hajnrych @ December 1st 2012,01:23:04 ) Kiełpiś, what are U doin' in my group forum? :-)
Just passing by :-)
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Quote ( Pedro Almeida @ December 2nd 2012,11:40:02 ) Is time to say a few words...
First my thoughts goes to K. Volf, he showed easily how's done and without a fuzz, a totally demolish season, take my hat Volf, amazing season, not to much mistakes,, and taking the control when it needed, superb.
About the rest one thing did shock me a bit, we had a despromoting with 9 points, so this means this group is very balanced with the quality, what is good in one hand, but on the other hand will turned out to be unfair on some managers in future because they worked properly and might have to change next seson the pattern of work till now.
It will became a season 34 even more finest and hard for all of us, promoters, and believers on staying and those who are trying to avoid relagations, like the new comers, I must say this is one of the most if not the most hard group in Pro I ever had.
Congratz on the promoters and all the best.
Like all the best to all stayed and the new comers.
See you all in a week time.
Really true..It was a really hard season..I have friends in Pro and just they needed 3 points to retain the group..anyway next season could be really interesting for the championship
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Have you notice there's a smartass thumbing all guys down???
Not that it matters but is very poor spirit really, not having the gutz to say what it feels like and undercover beneath a click.
Just a though. :D
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Quote ( Pedro Almeida @ December 3rd 2012,13:55:39 ) Have you notice there's a smartass thumbing all guys down???
Yep, I've noticed it too. Probably some trolling kid.
Changing topic, I've a question to discuss with some of You. Especially with people who will be fighting for promotion in next season. I mean Alex, Maja, Peter, Pedro, Aleksey and Filipe(?). We all know there's only 4 promoting spots ( maybe 1 extra) and at least 7 or even 8 managers are willing take this first four places. My question is: Do we take this same cheap tyres? Some of You maybe thinking, why I'm asking this? Because, I'm afraid some of You'll pick BadYears in next season and rest may follow the same path. That's not a good for all of us. Here's an explanation:
Yokos $25,5M per season
Duns $37,4M per season ( + $11,9M)
Bads $61,2M per season ( + $35,7M)
First GPRO rule is saving money. Even if some of You will be so lucky and take one of this promoting spot, You don't want to do this with blank account at the end of the season, am I right? I know it maybe unfair for some managers, but starting adventure in Master without money isn't a good idea. We already have bad luck to racing in the hardest PRO Group, so maybe we shouldn't make it harder with finances?
I'll be honest with You. I have sponsors who will be paying me >$4,5M per race, so I can afford badyears, but I don't want to spend $35M extra just on tyres. I'm giving You (and me) an opportunity to save some cash. If You'll choose cheap tyres I'll take it too.
What do You think about that idea?
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Bads will help in the rain and durability, but I personally think there overated. I will choose Yokos or Duns.
Sion Francis from S32 used Yokos and promoted and this S33 used Yokos and came 6th in master. Im leaning to Yokos, I will decide later.
I want to go through the whole season first and find the advantages and disadvantages.
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Quote ( Marek Hajnrych @ December 3rd 2012,15:20:40 ) First GPRO rule is saving money. Even if some of You will be so lucky and take one of this promoting spot, You don't want to do this with blank account at the end of the season, am I right? I know it maybe unfair for some managers, but starting adventure in Master without money isn't a good idea. We already have bad luck to racing in the hardest PRO Group, so maybe we shouldn't make it harder with finances? I'll be honest with You. I have sponsors who will be paying me >$4,5M per race, so I can afford badyears, but I don't want to spend $35M extra just on tyres. I'm giving You (and me) an opportunity to save some cash. If You'll choose cheap tyres I'll take it too.
I agree with you Marek, and I am one who can pick the more expensive tires, I have money, I have sponsors who will be paying me> $ 4.0 M per race too, so I can afford badyears.
But if the managers that want to promote, choose the cheapest tires, I also choose Yoko or Duns
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this is a very good idea Marek ! i don't have good sponsors, i have a shit one offering almost 2 mil. but i have a cheap and fast driver.
i will take yokos or dunnos.
perfect would be pipis :P but i have to agree that yokos will be perfect when will reach master. a very good balance.
maybe we can all go in the group for a yoko cartel !!
yoko cartel would be perfect also for the guys that want to retain
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