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A old postin' #91 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:39:27 Be quotin' 
I would guess that by the time the admins would consider lifting the ban, so much time would have passed that Finn isn't bothered about coming back anyway. Shame.
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A old postin' #92 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:49:01 Be quotin' 
Wouldnt a table be more clear for everyone on bans? ie swearing = 3 races midget sex = 8 races upsetting big kev = life ban?

At least it would be clear for everyone.. Finn was a good active member although his Liverpool shite got on my nerves, will be a shame to lose him
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A old postin' #93 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:52:13 ('t be edit'd Jan 6 2015, 20:53:23 by Kevin Parkinson) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Lee Downing @ January 6th 2015,20:49:01 )

Wouldnt a table be more clear for everyone on bans?


Most people are quite clear on how the ban system works.

1st ban = 10 days
2nd ban = 20 days
3rd ban = 30 days
4th ban = "permaban" (can only be lifted by admin intervention and rarely happens until a long time has passed, if ever)

People are rarely issued with a ban outright, although it can happen, but usually you would need 3 official warnings (actual warnings, not just a PM from a mod) to get each ban.

Quote ( Lee Downing @ January 6th 2015,20:49:01 )

upsetting big kev = life ban


I like this one. I'll keep it in mind if anyone ever upsets me. Don't think it's happened yet :p
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A old postin' #94 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:54:21 Be quotin' 
My bad, didnt know we had that. Maybe I will read the rules......
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A old postin' #95 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:55:25 Be quotin' 
Is that on the Game Rules or Wiki anywhere?

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A old postin' #96 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:55:55 ('t be edit'd Jan 6 2015, 20:58:45 by Kevin Parkinson) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Lee Downing @ January 6th 2015,20:54:21 )

My bad, didnt know we had that. Maybe I will read the rules......


I'm not sure if it's specifically stated there, to be honest. Has been discussed on the forums a few times though. But you know now :)

Takes a lot of official warnings to get banned, especially considering how laid back the mods are these days and warnings not getting thrown about unless they really have to.

<--- (Wait's for the thumb's down from someone who's recently received a warning ) :p

EDIT - Just checked and don't see that stated in the rules or Wiki anywhere, but it certainly has been covered in the forums. And now it's been covered again. The ones that don't know are the ones that probably have never received a warning so are unlikely to have encountered such things before lol
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A old postin' #97 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:58:14 Be quotin' 
Sorted Kev lol...sorry
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A old postin' #98 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:59:15 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Lee Downing @ January 6th 2015,20:58:14 )

Sorted Kev lol...sorry


You do know I'm going to need to give you a warning now? ;)
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A old postin' #99 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 20:59:56 Be quotin' 
Are the other forum mods banned from the forum? :D
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A old postin' #100 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:01:03 Be quotin' 
Sorry Sir... I love this role play stuff:)
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A old postin' #101 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:02:26 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Phil Maunder @ January 6th 2015,20:59:56 )

Are the other forum mods banned from the forum? :D


Every time they try and post, my head gets in the way.
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A old postin' #102 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:04:17 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Lee Downing @ January 6th 2015,20:49:01 )

. Finn was a good active member although his Liverpool shite got on my nerves


When time comes he showed he isn't a real fan.
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A old postin' #103 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:09:45 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Patryk Janczak @ January 6th 2015,21:04:17 )

When time comes he showed he isn't a real fan


don't tell us, tell him. PM's still work.
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A old postin' #104 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:24:24 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Phil Maunder @ January 6th 2015,20:39:27 )

I would guess that by the time the admins would consider lifting the ban, so much time would have passed that Finn isn't bothered about coming back anyway. Shame.


This, and because he's bothered by the crap from last week as I said on your post above.
Afterall he's better in our TF while he moans about me being too funny quick smart handsome slow.
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A old postin' #105 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:36:20 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Mehdi El Fathy @ January 6th 2015,21:24:24 )

Quote ( Phil Maunder @ January 6th 2015,20:39:27 )

I would guess that by the time the admins would consider lifting the ban, so much time would have passed that Finn isn't bothered about coming back anyway. Shame.

This, and because he's bothered by the crap from last week as I said on your post above.
Afterall he's better in our TF while he moans about me being too funny quick smart handsome slow.



Well considering you are the only person in team that is not in the points!
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A old postin' #106 Spake upon Jan 6 2015, 21:51:48 ('t be edit'd Jan 6 2015, 21:55:57 by Mehdi El Fathy) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ January 6th 2015,21:36:20 )

Well considering you are the only person in team that is not in the points!


Nah that's still wrong on L56 :)

Oh these last 2 laps. Better take my posts on the TF. Or else it will be a free ban out the forums
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A old postin' #107 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 13:37:22 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ January 6th 2015,20:52:13 )

1st ban = 10 days
2nd ban = 20 days
3rd ban = 30 days
4th ban = "permaban" (can only be lifted by admin intervention and rarely happens until a long time has passed, if ever)


There has been permabans removed before, so let Finn back, I did't really see what was so deserving of such punishment tbh.
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A old postin' #108 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 13:48:24 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Stuart McIntyre @ January 7th 2015,13:37:22 )

I did't really see what was so deserving of such punishment tbh.


This seemed to sum it up perfectly..

Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ December 8th 2014,14:33:26 )

It is not a thing of being allowed or not, but more to get a feeling when it is finally enough. And it was already enough long ago in my opinion! But you keep going and going, trying to play devils advocate and just running on the thin line trying not to cross the border so that you wont get another official warning. Honestly, I am pissed off by that behaviour. [/rant]
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A old postin' #109 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 13:55:52 Be quotin' 
Fair enough, a lot of peoples behaviour piss people off, (a certain Mr Brosnan comes to mind) but a permaban for pissing people off?

There would be very few people left on the forums if that were the case :)
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A old postin' #110 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 14:01:08 Be quotin' 
Everyone has its opinions and is free to share them.


In case of heavy insults (I don't consider words like "s**t" heavy insults) then the ban is absolutely right ; but if it's just for pissing some people off , then it's a little bit too much.
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A old postin' #111 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 14:04:14 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Luca Bertani @ January 7th 2015,14:01:08 )

I don't consider words like "s**t" heavy insults


Of course not. Salt, suit, sort, etc.
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A old postin' #112 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 14:07:00 ('t be edit'd Jan 7 2015, 14:09:35 by Luca Bertani) Be quotin' 
Sometimes I found funny what he said and other times I found it "on the borderline" , but I don't see any reasons for Finn being perma-banned.

Being pissed off for something said in an internet game's forum , is just for children.


There are other things to be worried about , certainly not for this ones.



Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ January 7th 2015,14:04:14 )

Of course not. Salt, suit, sort, etc.


My gosh .. thanks for the genuine laugh. :]

Thumb up.
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A old postin' #113 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 14:07:18 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Luca Bertani @ January 7th 2015,14:01:08 )

I don't consider words like "s**t" heavy insults


lol, too scared to say it incase you get a ban :)
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A old postin' #114 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 14:08:15 ('t be edit'd Jan 7 2015, 14:12:19 by Luca Bertani) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Stuart McIntyre @ January 7th 2015,14:07:18 )

lol, too scared to say it incase you get a ban :)


Just for safety .. :D

Anyway my POV on this situation is crystal clear , I want Finn back!
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A old postin' #115 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 14:29:47 ('t be edit'd Jan 7 2015, 14:30:48 by Kevin Parkinson) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Stuart McIntyre @ January 7th 2015,13:37:22 )

There has been permabans removed before


Yes, as I alluded to in what you quoted. They haven't been removed until after a significant period of time has passed though, and other factors are taken in to consideration before an admin would remove such a ban. I don't like the term "permaban" myself, more long ban of undetermined length. :p

Quote ( Stuart McIntyre @ January 7th 2015,13:37:22 )

so let Finn back, I did't really see what was so deserving of such punishment tbh.


I won't comment on individuals but if anyone has been permabanned (and I'm not saying Finn has or has not) then it would likely be for an accumulation of warnings and not an outright ban; they are uncommon.

So to get such a ban, someone would have already received 11 official warnings (ignoring any number of unofficial mod PMs regarding behaviour), which would have led to three separate bans in the past. They would be more than aware of the situation they are in and would know what a warning would result in.

If you are claiming you don't see something deserving of a warning, then that is your opinion, although you may well not be aware of all the details or what any warning was for, as is the case on many occasions people are warned as users aren't privvy to what has been said in PM previously.

If you are claiming you don't see reason for a permaban, then that's pretty irrelevant as is a different matter altogether - it's disagreeing with how the accumulated warning/ban system works. If you try and find a reason on the forums that a user was permabanned, I doubt you ever would, as the only people that are instantly permabanned tend to be those here for reasons such as advertising and such like, and not normal use of the GPRO forums.
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A old postin' #116 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 15:06:04 ('t be edit'd Jan 7 2015, 15:07:12 by Christopher Davis) Be quotin' 
I would say that if anyone has been banned by the GPRO crew it was done rightly so, Finn's been here for ages and has pissed many people off. Bans are bans, don't be a dink and follow the rules, it's not that hard really.

Excluding a particular exGPRO forum mod ;)
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A old postin' #117 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 16:25:33 Be quotin' 
No one asked, but here is my take.
Anyone can say almost anything on here; it's the ones who don't stop when asked that get into trouble. I think It would be nearly impossible for a reasonable person to get a forum ban, you'd have to be trying, or be really stupid.
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A old postin' #118 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 16:41:36 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Jes Roth @ January 7th 2015,16:25:33 )

or be really stupid.


Perm ban for Finn then lol :)

Bring the Finn back....Poll time
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A old postin' #119 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 16:50:11 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Tim Sewell @ January 7th 2015,13:48:24 )

This seemed to sum it up perfectly..


Finn kept talking about what happened for around a couple of days, as you quoted on your post, and that's what happened. Right.

I'm not sure if it weight Rafa's dismission from being a mod because from what I've seen with my own eyes and a good translation (not any kind of google translate), we can say that he badly insulted his mom, asked his Brazilian mates to dislike all of his future posts and actually said there that he was going to do intentional typos, so "idiots would not understand". And I guess there are quite a lot more things that may have happened but have to be kept secret
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A old postin' #120 Spake upon Jan 7 2015, 16:51:16 Be quotin' 
What do we want?
Finn back.
When do we want it?
Now. Or whenever mods/admin believe it's the right time to do so, should they believe it's warranted.

Eh, forget the protest. It's not not a very catchy chant and people will forget the words.
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