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Should Hamilton leave McLaren for Mercedes?
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Wątek: Lewis Hamilton: Mercedes or McLaren? |
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#331 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 16:02:47
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Hamilton Mercedes:) yes yes yes
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#332 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 16:05:03
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well looks like we know the poll winners now... :p
Saw this coming, and I doubt the mechnical issues they have been having made McLaren the past few weeks helped their case much...
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#333 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 20:04:18
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Quote ( Lukas Jonaitis @ September 30th 2012,13:40:56 ) Good for him, McLaren is going down from 2014 anyways :)
Lets hope they are even though i love mclaren :(
Quote ( Girban Alexandru @ September 30th 2012,13:46:24 ) Whitmarsh confirmed that they offered even more money than Mercedes :) So obviously money wasn't why he chose to swap teams.
Well that settles the case hes NOT went for money watch him win races next season and titles beyond 2013 :)
Hamilton is the best driver in F1 hes made a great move.
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#334 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 20:25:15
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#335 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 20:42:55
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,20:04:18 )
Lets hope they are even though i love mclaren :(
You love Hamilton not McLaren then.
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#336 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 20:53:38
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em maybe Jed :D but I like McLaren too ;)
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#337 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 20:56:33
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,20:53:38 ) but I like McLaren too ;)
But only whilst they're funning Twittelton, thats why you want them to fail :)
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#338 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 21:09:20
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Quote ( Lukas Jonaitis @ September 30th 2012,13:40:56 ) McLaren is going down from 2014 anyways :)
Good assumption? Love to hear a reason.
If this is the case, all customer teams are screwed? The only teams left with a chance will be Ferrari and Mercedes? No other manufacturer produces its own engines? Apart from maybe Lotus/Renault. McLaren have produced a turbo engine, its in the MP4-12C. McLaren know what they are doing, taking the Mercedes engine away wont cause them to implode and crumble into nothing? The regulations are the same around the board. Everyone has the same issue. Just because Mercedes produce their own engine doesn't mean they get different regulations to everyone else.
I don't understand the hatred against McLaren. They are a top team, have been for decades? Why do people hate them? Why do people hate Hamilton, get some lives people.
The only thing going for Mercedes, is Ross Brawn. If he can repeat his 2009 magnificence and make good of the rule changes in 2014, Lewis stands a good chance of nailing another championship. But if other teams get on top of it as well. Its not going to be plain sailing. Remember the 1988 F1 season, the last time we saw turbo engines? McLaren won 15 of 16 races. So... Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. It might have been a Honda engine, but McLaren chassis. McLaren know how that will be utilized in some way. Mercedes never produced a turbo engine for Formula 1. So its unknown territory to some extent for them.
I'm bored of making a point, I think everyone needs to slow down slating McLaren and look at the bigger picture.
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#339 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 21:20:22
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Hey mate i like McLaren they are a great team but haven't won a constructors since 1999 thats why i think Hamilton has made the right decision to move to Mercedes :)
McLaren has not got the luck they need Hamilton has brilliant speed and McLaren couldn't captlies on that. Then i cant see any other driver making McLaren No.1
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#340 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 21:23:28
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,21:20:22 ) Mercedes :)
So they have won it in the last 3 years have they? Don't count them as Brawn, the team structure is different now....
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#341 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 21:26:48
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Going to Mercedes is a mistake, the team is as bad as McLaren at making huge mistakes, even back in the Honda days they had terrible moments every season, half their cars were slow and they never seem to win (2009 the only exception). Hamilton should've gone to Stewart/Haas instead http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/F1+Driver+Lewis+Hamilton+...
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#342 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 21:30:01
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Quote ( Steven Tindle @ September 30th 2012,21:23:28 ) So they have won it in the last 3 years have they? Don't count them as Brawn, the team structure is different now....
I didn't mention there achievements ;)
Would LOVE to see Jed getting proved wrong :) Dont worry Jed ill be here and you i (hope) will be here then we will see how bad of a move Hamilton has made ;)
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#343 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 22:49:34
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,21:30:01 )
Would LOVE to see Jed getting proved wrong :) Dont worry Jed ill be here and you i (hope) will be here then we will see how bad of a move Hamilton has made ;)
Almost certainly a bad move, the interesting part is whether he can beat Rosberg or not since they're both talented drivers who will be on an equal footing for the first time.
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#344 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 22:57:40
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ September 30th 2012,22:49:34 ) the interesting part is whether he can beat Rosberg or not since they're both talented drivers who will be on an equal footing for the first time.
Cant wait to see that also Jed Rosberg is a brilliant driver! But maybe Hamilton has the edge over him?
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#345 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 23:07:24
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,20:04:18 ) Hamilton is the best driver in F1 hes made a great move.
I would rather have 3 drivers on the grid before him. He's the 4th best IMO.
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#346 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 23:22:59
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Said it before, I'll say it again.
Hamiltons move to Mercedes is a terrible idea overall.
Yes, Mclaren buggered up this season. However haven't Mercedes too?
I'm near certain the sponsorship deals that Hamilton will no doubt be made to sign will make his management company very happy.
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#347 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 23:26:42
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,21:30:01 ) I didn't mention there achievements ;)
Would LOVE to see Jed getting proved wrong :) Dont worry Jed ill be here and you i (hope) will be here then we will see how bad of a move Hamilton has made ;)
To be honest, as a Macca fan, I'll be happy to see him stop cheering them on.
Hamilton really needs to improve that car, along with the Merc team, if he wants to win the championship. His aim is to win the championship. Can he do that with Mercedes? Only time will tell. Don't count on it though, Macca will probably be stronger without him now anyway with two drivers who have the same perspective of racing.
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#348 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 23:46:56
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@ People reading too much into the 2014 engines all the main teams will have engines designed around them
Ferrari and Mercedes are manufacture teams, Red Bull are the main focus for Renault (Lotus are just a customer now) and McLaren are likely to have PURE engines so they should be in a good position still and not enough at a disadvantage to move to a car which will likely become piss poor after a few rounds.
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#349 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 23:49:16
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 30th 2012,23:26:42 ) Macca
Whos Macca? is it massa?
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#350 Opublikowane Wrz 30 2012, 23:55:01
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Quote ( Asim Akram @ September 30th 2012,23:49:16 ) Whos Macca? is it massa? McLaren
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Quote ( Andy Smith @ September 30th 2012,14:25:01 )
new game--- what will Lewis' first album be called?
I go with "I wanna get past 30 laps"
Spin That Wheel
Life in the Pit Lane
Is it Because I is Back in Black
Shunts, Bumps, & Hip-Hop
Get Rich Or Die Trying [bit insensitive I know but 50 cent ready-made this one]
Dr Hamilton
190 mile
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"Had Mark gone, Dietrich(red bull) would have signed Lewis."
Ecclestone said he then proposed the idea of approaching Mercedes to Hamilton.
"Why not talk to Mercedes, Lewis?" Ecclestone recalls asking Hamilton. "Lewis rolled his eyes," he added, "but I told him that he had nothing to lose as he wanted out of McLaren."
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/104072.html
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#353 Opublikowane Mar 24 2013, 11:10:09
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on topic... seems like lewis not too sure himself since he visited McLarens pitbox today
that was an ultrafun moment :)
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#354 Opublikowane Mar 24 2013, 11:10:54
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Quote ( Håkan Ferm @ March 24th 2013,11:10:09 ) on topic... seems like lewis not too sure himself since he visited McLarens pitbox today
that was an ultrafun moment :)
Ya it was big LOL.. Lewis behaves dumb sometimes
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#356 Opublikowane Mar 24 2013, 11:39:16
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The way this season seems to be going Hamiltons move to Mercedes looks like a very good move for the future
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I wonder if JB would have been as kind as nico was to be his rear gunner though while coasting to save fuel. So, yeah, I think it will help lewis that it seems he is now a number 1 driver as he never quite liked the equal treatment at McLaren. So, it's good for him, maybe bad for the sport in terms of racing.
Mercedes will be keen to point out that they were just looking for a solid result, but for sure a few sponsors will have been keener to see Hamilton get a podium for his new constructors in only race 2. Well, it's a good job I guess that Nico and Lewis get on better than Mark and Seb appear not to. As long as Nico will be happy to always be behind Lewis if they are in close proximity then Mercedes should have a great partnership to go forward with.
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#358 Opublikowane Mar 24 2013, 15:43:54 (ostatnio edytowany Mar 24 2013, 15:47:40 przez Roy Mitchell)
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Surprised me that the Mercedes are so quick. Nico understands the economics of the sport and was gracious to give up the podium finish to Hamilton. I hope Hamilton doesn't end up being the lead driver in that team.
Webber the Whiner... On the podium he says.... told to preserve the tires... then Seb goes and does things, that are not nice to me. Boo-hoo-hoo
Hamilton and Vettel team mates.... might be more of the type of racing we saw here. A bit of paint trading :)
Massa did well enough, with better luck he could have placed with Rosberg or Hamilton and Alonso not being in there, is a missing element that could have been in the race ending.
Go Seb!!
Oh.. and on topic. I think Hamilton made a great move to Mercedes. Now he can really show his skills.
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Hamilton did 2 fantastic things this year (without eachother those things would be normal, but in this case-no):
1.Hamilton changed his team from McLaren-Mercedes to Mercedes
(not a big change in names i'd say)
2.He pitted in McLaren-Mercedes pitplace with Mercedes car.(not a very big change in names, but a ~10 meter change in geographical location :D)
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#360 Opublikowane Mar 24 2013, 16:01:36
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