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Mensagem antiga #1 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 04:36:33 Citar 
it may sound stupid to some if not most but recently i have had a small number of people wanting a quarrel over whether the world is flat or it is actually as were educated to believe, round ?

id like some argumentative facts if at all possible please?

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Mensagem antiga #2 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 04:40:47 (Editado em 15 Ago 2017, 04:45:26 por Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo) Citar 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ August 15th 2017,04:36:33 )

it may sound stupid to some if not most but recently i have had a small number of people wanting a quarrel over whether the world is flat or it is actually as were educated to believe, round ?

id like some argumentative facts if at all possible please?



Any picture of the earth taken from space, Just ggogle earth from space to get some pictures.

The shadow projected by earth on the moon during a Lunar Eclipse.

Time zones, if the earth was flat the sun would illuminate it all during the day or fully dark during the night. Thus there would be no time zones.

And of course the classical that when a boat dissappears over the horizon, you will loose sight of the lower parts and at the end the masts.

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Mensagem antiga #3 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 04:45:57 Citar 
Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 15th 2017,04:40:47 )

Any picture of the earth taken from space


the pictures are taken by who? That we must believe?

Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 15th 2017,04:40:47 )

The shadow projected by earth on the moon during a Lunar Eclipse.

yeh that was an argument that i put across but the light from the sun shouldnt be totally blocked given the distance from the sun?
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Mensagem antiga #4 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 04:53:52 Citar 
the sun is so huge that the moon and its shadow is errelievent,the sun should cast light over the earth 100% no matter what small object is blocking it because something in its path would need to be huge or the sun is smaller than what were led to believe
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Mensagem antiga #5 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 04:56:49 Citar 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ August 15th 2017,04:45:57 )

Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 15th 2017,04:40:47 )

Any picture of the earth taken from space

the pictures are taken by who? That we must believe?

Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 15th 2017,04:40:47 )

The shadow projected by earth on the moon during a Lunar Eclipse.
yeh that was an argument that i put across but the light from the sun shouldnt be totally blocked given the distance from the sun?


Any satellite or person that has travled to space, but also you as a regular air traveler can seethe earths curvature, just take a day flight from Europe to NY city and sit on the right side of the airplane an look out the window, you will be able to see the earths curvature from your window.

Another example:
go to the geographic north pole, Travel 10 miles south, travel 10 miles west, and then travel 10 miles north. You will reach the North pole again, Than can only happen on a sphere.

Not all eclipses are total,some are partial because the sun earth and moon are not perfectly aligned, that is when you get your shadow.

When you look at the night sky the Moon looks larger than the sun, but we know that the moon is significantly smaller than the sun and Earth,it's all relative to distance.

Also another example is that if it were flat you could no be able to fly from Americato China over the Pacific.

Another thing you can question them, if all other major objects in the sky are round, why would the earth be flat?
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Mensagem antiga #7 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:01:21 Citar 
Bored,so i will answer....night and day....if it was flat,and even if it rotates,at one stage in the whole world it would be day when facing the sun and at some other it would be night when opposite.....and that never happens....
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Mensagem antiga #7 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:01:21 Citar 
seriously - why bother talking to people who insist the world is flat? too much time on your hands or are you just trying to exercise your patience?
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Mensagem antiga #7 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:01:21 Citar 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ August 15th 2017,04:53:52 )

the sun is so huge that the moon and its shadow is errelievent,the sun should cast light over the earth 100% no matter what small object is blocking it because something in its path would need to be huge or the sun is smaller than what were led to believe


Yes but is millions of miles away. When you watch an object far away does it look smaller or bigger?

From the Earth's point of view the Sun is smaller than the Moon, and that is why the Sun or the moon can be eclipsed.

Talking about eclipses, if the earth was flat, all the people on the earth would be able to see next week's eclipse, no only the people in North America.
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Mensagem antiga #8 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:02:11 (Editado em 15 Ago 2017, 05:02:33 por Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo) Citar 
http://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round#page-9


Sorry for the double post
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Mensagem antiga #9 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:45:36 Citar 
Quote ( Martin Irla @ August 15th 2017,05:01:21 )

Bored,so i will answer....night and day....if it was flat,and even if it rotates,at one stage in the whole world it would be day when facing the sun and at some other it would be night when opposite.....and that never happens....

because light travels at a certain speed? right?

Quote ( Daniel Rosa @ August 15th 2017,05:01:21 )

seriously - why bother talking to people who insist the world is flat? too much time on your hands or are you just trying to exercise your patience?

my point too,but youre educated also

Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 15th 2017,05:01:21 )

Yes but is millions of miles away.

once again,prove it?
Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 15th 2017,05:01:21 )

From the Earth's point of view the Sun is smaller than the Moon, and that is why the Sun or the moon can be eclipsed.
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Mensagem antiga #10 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:47:29 Citar 
the sun is smaller than the moon?

that brings a whole new topic
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Mensagem antiga #11 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:50:34 Citar 
the sun is huge,no matter what distance its mass the light from it should averpass the moon,yes i get the distance thing but like are you saying that a moth that flys around a light bulb although you can see its showow it will totally block out where its shadow is cast?
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Mensagem antiga #12 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 05:53:19 Citar 
give me something to argue them about guys come on
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Mensagem antiga #13 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 06:03:43 Citar 
Not flat,nor round.
It's like a potato
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Mensagem antiga #14 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 06:11:38 Citar 
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain

If the world were flat

- why can't I see Mount Everest
- or bring it closer, Ben Nevis
- why when I go up in an aeroplane and look out the window does the earth have a curve
- what's at the edge?
- how deep is it, the earth that is
- what's on the other side?
- how deep would I have to dig to reach the other side?
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Mensagem antiga #15 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 07:20:32 Citar 
Lannister's would see the Dothraki army straight away but they needed to wait a little. Then Dothraki heads appeared first....
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Mensagem antiga #16 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 07:46:22 (Editado em 15 Ago 2017, 07:48:04 por MG van Rensburg) Citar 
You're all idiots. Obviously the earth is flat. How else would it sit on the backs of four elephants who are standing on the shell of a flying turtle?
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Mensagem antiga #17 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 07:52:11 Citar 
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ August 15th 2017,07:46:22 )

You're all idiots. Obviously the earth is flat. How else would it sit on the backs of four elephants who are standing on the shell of a flying turtle?


Late Mr Terry Pratchet if memory serves me.

Anycase...I heard the members of the flat world society are looking all around the globe for members!
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Mensagem antiga #18 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 08:00:58 Citar 
Quote ( Jaco Van Zyl @ August 15th 2017,07:52:11 )

Anycase...I heard the members of the flat world society are looking all around the globe for members!


Problem is they keep wondering to the edges of earth and.......Falling off.
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Mensagem antiga #19 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 08:25:17 Citar 
Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth without leaving Egypt. He knew that at local noon on the summer solstice in Syene (modern Aswan, Egypt), the Sun was directly overhead. (Syene is at latitude 24°05′ North, near to the Tropic of Cancer, which was 23°42′ North in 100 BC[16]) He knew this because the shadow of someone looking down a deep well at that time in Syene blocked the reflection of the Sun on the water. He measured the Sun's angle of elevation at noon on the same day in Alexandria. The method of measurement was to make a scale drawing of that triangle which included a right angle between a vertical rod and its shadow. This turned out to be about 7°, or 1/50th of the way around a circle. Taking the Earth as spherical, and knowing both the distance and direction of Syene, he concluded that the Earth's circumference was fifty times that distance.
...2600 b.c....

Are you not ashamed to say that the Earth is flat?
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Mensagem antiga #20 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 08:57:12 Citar 
If the earth was flat, it should be infinitely easier to prove than to prove it was round - it isnt hard to prove with science and logic nowadays, but lets forget that. It did take humans a while.

Prove to me the earth is flat, rather than relentlessly questioning the mountain of proof that it isnt.

Show me the friggin edge.
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Mensagem antiga #21 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 09:03:16 (Editado em 15 Ago 2017, 09:05:30 por Damir Hictaler) Citar 
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ August 15th 2017,08:57:12 )

If the earth was flat, it should be infinitely easier to prove than to prove it was round - it isnt hard to prove with science and logic nowadays, but lets forget that. It did take humans a while.

Prove to me the earth is flat, rather than relentlessly questioning the mountain of proof that it isnt.

Show me the friggin edge.


Happy now ?

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Mensagem antiga #22 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 09:08:43 Citar 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ August 15th 2017,05:53:19 )

give me something to argue them about guys come on


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Mensagem antiga #23 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 09:36:50 Citar 
There is also the question what possible motive would there be for people in power and scientists of so many nations to make up a story like the round Earth.
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Mensagem antiga #24 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 09:51:53 (Editado em 15 Ago 2017, 09:52:40 por Jon Day) Citar 
Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

If the world were flat
- why can't I see Mount Everest
Its behind Ben Nevis, try looking from the roof of Specsavers.


Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

- or bring it closer, Ben Nevis
You need slightly better glasses.

Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

- why when I go up in an aeroplane and look out the window does the earth have a curve
Thats just the weight of Mount Everest, Ben Nevis and Specsavers.

Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

- what's at the edge?
A sign saying "stop".

Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

how deep is it, the earth that is
How deep would you like it to be?

Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

what's on the other side?
The Underneath of everything on the top!

Quote ( David Rolleston @ August 15th 2017,06:11:38 )

how deep would I have to dig to reach the other side?
Are you stood on the top of Mount Everest, Ben Nevis or Specsavers at this point?
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Mensagem antiga #25 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 10:01:13 Citar 
Sailors and Mariners have always known that the earth is not flat. The horizon is just 3 miles away at sea level and yet they journey hundreds or thousands of miles across it. Tails of sailing off the edge of the world were made up by those scared of the sea.
If you've ever been on or near the ocean you can see it for yourself. If you can't, you clearly have the IQ of a Peking Crispy Duck.
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Mensagem antiga #26 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 10:07:17 Citar 
More and more people around the globe believe the Earth is flat.



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Mensagem antiga #27 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 10:11:12 Citar 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ August 15th 2017,07:20:32 )

Lannister's would see the Dothraki army straight away but they needed to wait a little. Then Dothraki heads appeared first....

Nah! There was a hill in the way

When we say "flat" we don't necessarily literally mean "flat" - we accept that there are hills and mountains. We are not THAT stupid

(Hills and mountains between us? I feel a song coming on)
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Mensagem antiga #28 colocada 15 Ago 2017, 10:14:19 Citar 
I just checked outside my window. Looks pretty flat to me.
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