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Toby Kwong
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Стара порука #1 послано Aвг 6 2006, 17:26:12 Цитирај 
I cannot find the post about driver trainning...
Can anyone tell me every trainning is for which skill?
Or mainly tell me which trainning can increase Aggressiveness?
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Стара порука #2 послано Aвг 6 2006, 17:48:28 Цитирај 
http://www.gpro.be/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=532

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Стара порука #3 послано Aвг 6 2006, 17:51:14 Цитирај 
I don't think one in particular does increase aggressiveness, but if i did, i couldn't tell you or i'd have to kill you.

Oops, i mean... i couldn't tell you or the admins would edit my post :P


edit: actually hans's post is pretty revealing, most of the training you can guess what it does anyway.. hmm tech training what does that increase... :P
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Стара порука #4 послано Aвг 6 2006, 17:56:29 Цитирај 
heheheh
You can edit ureself andy ;)
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Стара порука #5 послано Aвг 6 2006, 17:58:11 Цитирај 
Thank you all...
I have just get my car for less than 1 hr, my drive have only 0 Aggressiveness, so I just want to ask...
Anyway, Thank you.^^
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Стара порука #6 послано Aвг 6 2006, 17:59:44 Цитирај 
Well good luck Toby, i guess u will find out alot of things in the next few races ;)
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Стара порука #7 послано Aвг 6 2006, 18:12:12 Цитирај 
I try Tech training to my driver but the Aggressiveness do not increase? Or it take times or other reason?
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Стара порука #8 послано Aвг 6 2006, 18:52:34 Цитирај 
i dont think tech training will change the aggresiveness, it must be something else you need to train ;)
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Стара порука #9 послано Aвг 6 2006, 18:55:25 Цитирај 
lol I will try later...thank you...:)
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Стара порука #10 послано Aвг 6 2006, 20:01:21 Цитирај 
Everything is reset at the end of this season Toby, so my suggestion to you is to experiment and test everything you possibly can before the real season starts, as well as getting a good idea of what to spend your money on at the start of the impending season.
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Стара порука #11 послано Aвг 6 2006, 20:03:39 Цитирај 
Oic....Thank you...:)
When will the end of this season?
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Стара порука #12 послано Aвг 6 2006, 20:05:52 Цитирај 
Check the season calendar for more information.
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Стара порука #13 послано Aвг 6 2006, 20:25:14 Цитирај 
2 races left this season!!
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Стара порука #14 послано Aвг 8 2006, 08:52:55 Цитирај 
but i think it's better to buy a new driver than train old one.
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Стара порука #15 послано Aвг 8 2006, 12:50:59 Цитирај 
I totally agree, it is very ineffective compared to the costs you pay for that.
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Стара порука #16 послано Aвг 8 2006, 13:04:53 Цитирај 
Seconded

I don't think 700,000 is realistic for a fitness class, it doesn't cost anything for the driver to drop from 15 meals a day to just 3.

Infact it saves money if anything...
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Стара порука #17 послано Aвг 8 2006, 13:53:43 Цитирај 
I think even if you dropped one zero from the cost, a net effect of two (2) points after the training is laughable (with tears in your eyes). I guess it would be most balanced if the cost would be cut at least in half and the effects would be at least doubled. For example... One or two hundred grands for an improvement of five to ten points seems viable. After all, you get to train only one aspect and ten points isn't that great difference at all! And sometimes a hundred grands is exactly the amount you can't allow yourself to spend.
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Стара порука #18 послано Aвг 8 2006, 14:08:33 Цитирај 
The problem is that in higher groups that may be too little :( In elite i imagine everyone would end up with mega drivers?
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Стара порука #19 послано Aвг 8 2006, 15:18:55 Цитирај 
for rookies its not worth it for elite it might be.......
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Стара порука #20 послано Aвг 8 2006, 15:23:58 Цитирај 
Quote ( Petras Ražanskas @ August 8th 2006,13:53:43 )

I think even if you dropped one zero from the cost, a net effect of two (2) points after the training is laughable (with tears in your eyes).


and even that is not the biggest problem.
it is the cost in other characteristic of the driver.
example:
when you train a certain skill (that I am not going to mention here) you gain x points in it and loose 10(ten) times x in another skill.
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Стара порука #21 послано Aвг 8 2006, 15:31:32 Цитирај 
Quote ( Andy Platt @ August 8th 2006,13:04:53 )

I don't think 700,000 is realistic for a fitness class, it doesn't cost anything for the driver to drop from 15 meals a day to just 3.


The price should be a lot lower, but maybe taking fitness classes could reduce the drivers motivation momentarily, to compensate for the lower price?
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Стара порука #22 послано Aвг 8 2006, 15:34:39 Цитирај 
Would it be possible to have a "flexible" price according to the skill level?

For example, it would cost 100k from 0-50 stamina, then 200k from 50-100, then 400k from 100-150... The numbers are there simple to illustrate the idea.

And hell yes, we should get bigger gains at low skill levels than measly 2 points.
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Стара порука #23 послано Aвг 8 2006, 15:44:46 Цитирај 
Quote ( Toni Metsänkylä @ August 8th 2006,15:31:32 )

The price should be a lot lower, but maybe taking fitness classes could reduce the drivers motivation momentarily, to compensate for the lower price?


fitness already reduces motivation a lot (if I remember correctly)
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Стара порука #24 послано Aвг 8 2006, 15:50:42 Цитирај 
Quote ( Petar Totev @ August 8th 2006,15:23:58 )

when you train a certain skill (that I am not going to mention here) you gain x points in it and loose 10(ten) times x in another skill.


on the other hand Petar, those that you loose in THAT certain skill are so easy to gain back again.if you loose much in 1 skill you can always gain back more of it in training that particular skill, so it should not be a problem.and like you say Motivation.... is so easy to gain more than what you have lost, unless you had max of course :), However even though i said for rookies that its probably not worth it i think you should try them out to see what they do so when it is time to use them you already have the knowledge of the impact or low impact they will do.
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Стара порука #25 послано Aвг 8 2006, 19:04:29 Цитирај 
Quote ( Justas Patkauskas @ August 8th 2006,15:34:39 )

Would it be possible to have a "flexible" price according to the skill level?

For example, it would cost 100k from 0-50 stamina, then 200k from 50-100, then 400k from 100-150... The numbers are there simple to illustrate the idea.

And hell yes, we should get bigger gains at low skill levels than measly 2 points.



There is already that sort of system in place, in a way.

The benefits of training are reduced if the attribute is high (or low in the case of weight)

Eg: (these are numbers out the air, don't bear any realism)

Training tech insight when the attribute is only 50, let's say increases by 10.

Training it when the attribute is 200, let's say increases by 5

So it sort-of IS more expensive to train at higher levels.
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Стара порука #26 послано Aвг 8 2006, 19:39:47 Цитирај 
Quote ( Andy Platt @ August 8th 2006,19:04:29 )

he benefits of training are reduced if the attribute is high (or low in the case of weight)


From my personal experience, training even at the lowest levels (read 0 skill) yields terribly small benefit. So either the system is broken or it's not balanced... But reduced price for training would make sense in lower groups, thus the need for dynamic costs as well.
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Стара порука #27 послано Aвг 8 2006, 19:44:28 Цитирај 
Quote ( Håkan Ferm @ August 8th 2006,15:50:42 )

on the other hand Petar, those that you loose in THAT certain skill are so easy to gain back again.if you loose much in 1 skill you can always gain back more of it in training that particular skill, so it should not be a problem.and like you say Motivation.... is so easy to gain more than what you have lost, unless you had max of course :),


I don't know how it is in your group, but in mine it is totally not true!

loosing 50 motivation for a single training of TI is definitelly not an easy thing to recover from - may be 4 races to get back to where you started from.

unless you want to drive a whole season with 0 motivation training fitness, TI and PR is NOT and option
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Стара порука #28 послано Aвг 8 2006, 19:44:45 Цитирај 
Quote ( Justas Patkauskas @ August 8th 2006,19:39:47 )

ut reduced price for training would make sense in lower groups, thus the need for dynamic costs as well.


or it could be in the same % raise as the race money are from the different classes. E.g training would cost 50% more in Amateur than it does in Rookies and so on. and i hope the base would be todays prices from Elite, so down in prices for the rest of the classes
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Стара порука #29 послано Aвг 8 2006, 19:46:58 Цитирај 
"loosing 50 motivation for a single training of TI is definitelly not an easy thing to recover from - may be 4 races to get back to where you started from."

perhaps different then in the classes Petar, i never seen that kind of a drop in amateur. ive always been able to gain more motivation points from either race or training then compared to lossed in that other training
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Стара порука #30 послано Aвг 8 2006, 23:26:53 Цитирај 
Quote ( Håkan Ferm @ August 8th 2006,19:44:45 )

or it could be in the same % raise as the race money are from the different classes. E.g training would cost 50% more in Amateur than it does in Rookies and so on. and i hope the base would be todays prices from Elite, so down in prices for the rest of the classes


Sounds sensible.
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