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Any admins care to comment on Andy's idea? Or anyone else for that matter?
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Quote ( Andrew Watson @ March 5th 2010,11:35:38 )
Is the team cup going to be running in the same format this season?
I was wondering if it may be possible to extend it to include more teams in the knockout stages.
The cup could be set up as follows;
race 1-2 qualifying/seeding rounds
the top 512 teams then go into the knockout rounds
race 3,4,5,6,7,8 are then 1-round knockouts reducing the number of teams down to 8 after which the competition continues as previously (best of 3 races).
Having 1-race knockout rounds gives more opportunity for the smaller teams to produce an upset, which hopefully would make things a little more interesting (Obviously, I expect the top teams would not be so keen on this aspect).
So, any thoughts on this idea? Is it now too late to implement anyway?
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Will there ever be any reward ($$$) for this?
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Given the lack of any interest in the team cup again this season, I wondered if perhaps there might be the possibility of a bit of an overhaul of it.
I think the top teams (which are the ones involved in the team cup, due to the qualifying requirement) have little interest in it, mostly because these are the guys who, generally speaking, are more serious about the individual side of the game. involving the lower ranked teams would, probably, raise a lot more interest. Particularly if they get drawn against one of the big-boys.
I made a suggestion some time ago about how such a system could work, though it didn't get much interest. Does anyone else have any ideas on it?
Quote ( Andrew Watson @ March 5th 2010,11:35:38 )
Is the team cup going to be running in the same format this season?
I was wondering if it may be possible to extend it to include more teams in the knockout stages.
The cup could be set up as follows;
race 1-2 qualifying/seeding rounds
the top 512 teams then go into the knockout rounds
race 3,4,5,6,7,8 are then 1-round knockouts reducing the number of teams down to 16 after which the competition continues as previously (best of 3 races).
Having 1-race knockout rounds gives more opportunity for the smaller teams to produce an upset, which hopefully would make things a little more interesting (Obviously, I expect the top teams would not be so keen on this aspect).
I guess there may be a formatting challenge to the admins in terms of presenting the rounds on-screen with so many teams, but I'm sure a solution could be found.
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I agree that this would be good Andrew, if more teams are involved in the cup then people would be more excited that their team is being successful, if they do well.
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Quote ( Andrew Watson @ July 8th 2010,13:18:04 )
I guess there may be a formatting challenge to the admins in terms of presenting the rounds on-screen with so many teams, but I'm sure a solution could be found.
Honestly, I didn't even think about it yet cos of the formatting problem.
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I love this idea, especially because the 1-round knockouts could throw up some real surprises and would give the smaller teams a chance to make a name for themselves.
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ July 8th 2010,13:23:03 )
Honestly, I didn't even think about it yet cos of the formatting problem.
my first thought for it would be to have the draw split into 2 phases - one for the rounds of 512 / 256 / 128 / 64 / 32, and then another (on a 2nd page) for when things get serious in the later rounds - 16 / 8 / 4 / 2.
Of course, a page with 512 teams on it would be rather big (though the team standings used to look like this)
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Quote ( Alan Tansley @ July 8th 2010,13:24:29 )
Does that mean it is potentially a possibility? :)
As Vlad isn't very keen on that cup at all, it seems every decision regarding it is up to me. So, if you manage to convince me somehow, there is potentially a small possibility :)
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ July 8th 2010,13:27:32 )
As Vlad isn't very keen on that cup at all
Maybe he would be keen on it if this gets implemented.
Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ July 8th 2010,13:27:32 )
So, if you manage to convince me somehow, there is potentially a small possibility :)
Excellent. . . Um, I'll buy you a beer. That enough encouragement?
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Quote ( Andrew Watson @ July 8th 2010,13:27:25 )
my first thought for it would be to have the draw split into 2 phases - one for the rounds of 512 / 256 / 128 / 64 / 32, and then another (on a 2nd page) for when things get serious in the later rounds - 16 / 8 / 4 / 2.
Of course, a page with 512 teams on it would be rather big (though the team standings used to look like this)
512 is too many. 128 seems to be a more reasonable number. That would include most teams that are interested in the team championships.
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Quote ( Brian Branch @ July 8th 2010,13:37:24 )
512 is too many. 128 seems to be a more reasonable number. That would include most teams that are interested in the team championships.
Possibly 512 is too high, but I think 128 is too low. it should be either 256 or 512. There are plenty of solid teams who would miss out if you cut it down to 128.
It's also a bit more difficult to sort a knockout system for 128 without having a lot of qualifying rounds. I suppose you could have one fewer 1-round knockout and add in another 3-round one.
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ July 8th 2010,13:27:32 )
So, if you manage to convince me somehow, there is potentially a small possibility :)
You could put 128 teams, like Brian said. Create 4 separate brackets, such that each bracket leads to semi finalists or 2 quarter finalists.
After that the finals round.
Basically exactly similar to what we have now, except 5 pages instead of 1.
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Quote ( Andrew Watson @ July 8th 2010,13:18:04 )
Given the lack of any interest in the team cup again this season,
I strongly disagree. Me and my team are very interested. :)
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All active teams in the cup. The best of them, if there is no opponent in the 1st round BYE, so from the 2nd round there could be 64, 128 or 256, doesnt matter. 1 race so you could have so many rounds during the season. Or best of 3 races, then the first rounds in groups of 4 teams, the best one goes to the next round.
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- Hello Nations.!!!
...It's Easy to Have in Parallel with the Team Cup (32 Pyramid)
...and a Second 32 Pyramid with Nation Team Cup.!!!
...with the same Rules.-
- So Simple.!!!
:)
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- No Dear Ethan.!!!
...I mean TEAMS from the Same Nation all Members.!!!
:)
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Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ December 6th 2019,09:31:30 ) - No Dear Ethan.!!!
...I mean TEAMS from the Same Nation all Members.!!!
:)
But most teams are international aren’t they?
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- Hello Graham.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...all the Teams are 17 Pages.
...the National Teams are 11 Pages.!!!
...We don't deserve Graham a Parallel Separate Cup down from the Main.???
...with no Cost at all.-
:)
http://prntscr.com/q73ia3
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Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ December 6th 2019,09:31:30 ) - No Dear Ethan.!!!
...I mean TEAMS from the Same Nation all Members.!!!
:)
You mean this? https://worldcup.gpro.net/
Or just a cup for national teams?
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A national team is just a team that happens to consist only of members from the same nation. But this is not fixed for an entire season.
Ioannis, what happens if such a team reaches the QF of that nations team cup, and then grabs a new recruit from a different country?
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Quote ( Ivan Silva @ December 6th 2019,14:01:18 ) Ioannis, what happens if such a team reaches the QF of that nations team cup, and then grabs a new recruit from a different country?
if that happens it is team does not add points in that phase I guess
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Guess this idea has come up because his team looks like its no 1 in the teams with all players from same nation .
This suggestion wouldnt have come about if his team was say 200 in the list.
Another suggestion from greece to suit him again ..
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Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ December 6th 2019,13:21:09 ) - Hello Graham.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...all the Teams are 17 Pages.
...the National Teams are 11 Pages.!!!
...We don't deserve Graham a Parallel Separate Cup down from the Main.???
...with no Cost at all.-
:)
http://prntscr.com/q73ia3
and from page 6-7 till 11 there are only 1 man or 2 mans teams...
and only the first 3 pages (with some goodwill 4 pages) there are teams with 6+ members
how unfair will this competition become ????
and as Ivan already pointed out there is a voluntary world cup competition..... With no cost
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