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Ahmet Sonverdi
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Стара порука #35272 послано Апр 3 2020, 20:28:55 Цитирај 
Jasper you lucky dog.
Dominik Karda
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Стара порука #35273 послано Апр 3 2020, 20:29:32 Цитирај 
Jasper, how much did you bribe Vlad? :P
Michael Keeney
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Стара порука #35274 послано Апр 3 2020, 20:34:31 Цитирај 
Anyone shocked? Poor Dmitry :(
Ahmet Sonverdi
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Стара порука #35275 послано Апр 3 2020, 20:36:28 Цитирај 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ April 3rd 2020,20:28:55 )

Jasper you lucky dog.

I take this back.
Alex Ilushenko
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Стара порука #35276 послано Апр 3 2020, 20:51:22 Цитирај 
Quote ( Andrea Squizzato @ April 3rd 2020,14:07:28 )

Randoms will fix this and give the victory to Jan.

pit stop added (
Ahmet Sonverdi
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Стара порука #35277 послано Апр 3 2020, 20:58:44 Цитирај 
The amount of people not finishing 90% of the race :D
Yug Desai3
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Стара порука #35278 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:06:36 Цитирај 
Congrats on the win, Andreas :)
Bert Huylebroeck1
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Стара порука #35279 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:10:44 Цитирај 
Congratz Andreas

Róbert László2
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Стара порука #35280 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:12:32 Цитирај 
Well done, Andreas! N-joy! ;)
Lee Harding
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Стара порука #35281 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:17:25 (последња промена Апр 3 2020, 21:18:01 од Lee Harding) Цитирај 
Well done Andreas. Great win :)

Lapped us all!
Raimonds Urtāns
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Стара порука #35282 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:17:39 Цитирај 
Congratz @Andreas Ramann (E) !!!
Andrea Squizzato1
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Стара порука #35283 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:22:48 Цитирај 
Congrats Andreas! Top job!

Sorry Dmitri for predicting your random, I'm starting to learn how the game works.
Jan Velske3
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Стара порука #35284 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:24:24 Цитирај 
Sorry Dmitry that that random probably cost retention :(


Róbert László2
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Стара порука #35285 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:24:27 Цитирај 
I demand to fire my strategist!





Oh, wait...
Jasper Coosemans1
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Стара порука #35286 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:24:46 Цитирај 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ April 3rd 2020,20:36:28 )

Jasper you lucky dog.
I take this back.

Man, if the first dry period was just ONE lap shorter... then I'd have saved a pitstop, 15 laps on the wrong tyres and some wobbling. In that case yes, I'd have been a lucky dog. :) In the end I think I got more or less the position I deserved based on pace, so my weather luck was neutral today.


George Slater4
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Стара порука #35287 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:35:48 Цитирај 
Congrats to Andreas and the others who scored a podium, you took the opportunity given by PHA at this track and went with it.

As for the nature of PHA matching at tracks like this or Indy Oval as we saw last season, I don't think it's particularly balanced as it makes a lot of the other aspects of a manager's package like the driver or tyres relatively insignificant. Sure it creates some crazy racing and I get that some may like that, but I feel it rewards those who are willing to commit to that type of strategy instead of those managers who have the best package. And to me that's not quite what the game should be.

In general I like PHA as it is currently implemented, but I think some of the most extreme tracks could use a bit of tweaking to the PHA values to tone that aspect down a little bit.
Edwin Silva
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Стара порука #35288 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:46:39 Цитирај 
The main proof of how skewed PHA got is in very balanced tracks a 3-4 levels higher car with premium tyres and a top driver still has a very hard time to put a rival below the 90% race completion. Instead, in very unbalanced tracks tyres, overall car level, driver and other parts of the package are largely irrelevant. If PHA matching is so overpowered in unbalanced tracks, it should be very punishing for skewed cars in very balanced tracks as well.
Jan Velske3
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Стара порука #35289 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:50:55 Цитирај 
i would rather tweak the crazy pha tracks than the system itself, problems solved.


Mikko Suhonen
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Стара порука #35290 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:58:20 (последња промена Апр 3 2020, 22:00:24 од Mikko Suhonen) Цитирај 
Meh, doesnt make it less impressive that Nechitailo is anyway the first ever manager to score points with Pipirellis in Elite \o/ Congrats!

E: Congrats Andreas ofc too ha!
Dominik Karda
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Стара порука #35291 послано Апр 3 2020, 21:59:55 Цитирај 
Get in Andreas!!! Really happy to see you win an Elite race
Martino Colombo
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Стара порука #35292 послано Апр 3 2020, 22:09:30 Цитирај 
Well done @Andreas Ramann(E)


Andreas Ramann
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Стара порука #35293 послано Апр 3 2020, 22:10:11 Цитирај 
Thanks everyone, I guess my planning finally paid off. :P
Well I assume some people already knew this when they saw my pace at Sakhir, since I was way too quick in wet conditions, if looking at Conti tyre wet performance.

It certainly is a topic to talk since when I started to play this game, I never paid any attention to PHA whatsoever. (Probably that's why I sucked to promote to Master as well. ;) ) But now as the change was made, this indeed gives some "interesting" opportunities for people to plan already a whole season ahead.
But this comes still with a very big downside - your car will need rebuilding of course, and for tracks like Brem, what's coming next, I may just as well dream of 90%. So you may retain with this, but surely you can't do much the whole season after that race as well, in case there wont be any P tracks again. *cough*
Really 50/50 in my opinion to really say if it's good or bad - good for people who try to retain with this, but when this plan backfires, then you'll wont have many chances to do much anymore. And bad indeed for people who try to be consistent and may not score enough with well-rounded package.

Still, feeling is great in this certain time period where we live now, so it surely boosts my own motivation as well, not just driver's today. ;) Winning in Elite is really something else than winning in any other group. I also got somehow 11 new achievements...

Now I may as well go back into my cave, since next race shall be very fun for me... I mean perfect temps as well. :D

By the way - thanks Jan, for letting me pass. https://imgflip.com/i/3v8ejd
Konstantin Sobolev
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Стара порука #35294 послано Апр 3 2020, 23:16:41 Цитирај 
this random Dmitry on conscience of admins. Explanations are unnecessary.
Maxim Kotov2
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Стара порука #35295 послано Апр 3 2020, 23:45:54 Цитирај 
Remember that M. Morozov also had a random tech problem pitstop on that Bremgarten race few seasons ago when he eventually finished 2nd. It’s just how game engine works. :/
Ivan Silva
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Стара порука #35296 послано Апр 4 2020, 00:25:02 Цитирај 
Was @Dmitry Nechitailo (E) the first ever guy to score points in Elite while using pipi tyres?
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Стара порука #35297 послано Апр 4 2020, 01:20:53 Цитирај 
Once again a crazy race.

I'm not against toning it down for the most unbalanced tracks but as others have pointed out, exploiting it comes with a price and requires preparation, it's not a freebie you can choose to annoy others.
There should be Elite retention strategies available at the cost of ruining your account, otherwise we all would just build our packages up and wait 5 years until we are competitive.
Jan Velske3
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Стара порука #35298 послано Апр 4 2020, 01:55:49 Цитирај 
@Rogerio Mandler (E) Now its your turn on Bremgarten to make the Yoko-army fully succeed!

Seeing that you somehow managed to finish behind Bert, I think your chances are very good :D
Rogerio Mandler
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Стара порука #35299 послано Апр 4 2020, 06:07:20 (последња промена Апр 4 2020, 06:09:30 од Rogerio Mandler) Цитирај 
I hadn't even seen my pit at the end. I was watching Dmitry's race, PIPI heading for a podium, taking random, making a pit at the end, that I didn't even see my close fight with Bert.
Mihail Morozov
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Стара порука #35300 послано Апр 4 2020, 18:19:30 Цитирај 
Why spoil the race for those who play by the rules and try to survive at any cost?
I do not believe in accidents, it was with me, now here is Dmitry!
Thank you to the admins...
Jan Velske3
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Стара порука #35301 послано Апр 4 2020, 19:40:50 Цитирај 
Quote ( Mihail Morozov @ April 4th 2020,18:19:30 )

Why spoil the race for those who play by the rules and try to survive at any cost?
I do not believe in accidents, it was with me, now here is Dmitry!
Thank you to the admins...


Well the start crash made you push way more legendary and you still retained, so I think the admins didnt succeeded :)
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