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Стара порука #121 послано Maј 26 2020, 10:32:00 (последња промена Maј 26 2020, 10:33:35 од Luke Frost) Цитирај 
Unfortunately the progression of the media since the internet has been to generate as much views (therefore income via advertisements) as possible, which more than 50% of the time means pushing stories that are misleading to say the least. I just ignore most news especially F1 news which is full of rubbish. You can simply follow the drivers & teams on social media to combat the silly narratives being produced daily across all of these outlets. I consider them in the same category as tiktok women desperate for views.

Regarding Ricciardo, I wouldn't be so pessimistic about the jump to McLaren. They made a lot of progress in 2019 and were clearly best of the rest. Plus, their entire structure is being micromanaged in a way inspired by Mercedes approach. I wouldn't be surprised to see them fighting for podiums next year. IMO if Alonso was with them in 2019 he may have grabbed a podium or two.


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Стара порука #122 послано Maј 26 2020, 10:40:29 Цитирај 
The trick is to follow the media outlets/journalists who don't want to burn bridges and sources which they have built up over years. They not only don't speculate, but they will hold onto stories until long after they get the scoop to ensure they retain their contacts and can still get info when they would like it. Joe Saward has been doing it for decades and is a good example.
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Стара порука #123 послано Maј 26 2020, 12:55:33 Цитирај 
Quote ( Matt Sewell @ May 26th 2020,10:40:29 )

The trick is to follow the media outlets/journalists who don't want to burn bridges and sources which they have built up over years. They not only don't speculate, but they will hold onto stories until long after they get the scoop to ensure they retain their contacts and can still get info when they would like it. Joe Saward has been doing it for decades and is a good example.
Unfortunately it means journalist without work in internet era like Luke said...
Now is time of "everything sales" More sex, violence, exclusivity...

About Hamilton ferrari move I don't think it would happen until Mercedes is around... and Mercedes has spoken about possibility of being just engine provider for F1 teams. Vettel to Mercedes... anything can happen if Vettel has nowhere to go and they reach a deal. Let's wait and see.
15...30min of news per week is enough. Life is much more calm and you still know most important stuff...
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Стара порука #124 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:12:46 Цитирај 
Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ May 26th 2020,12:55:33 )

15...30min of news per week is enough. Life is much more calm and you still know most important stuff...

I get 95% of my F1 news from this thread at the moment. Pretty sure I'm not missing anything important.
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Стара порука #125 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:20:32 Цитирај 
This week's most important F1 news, which has not been mentioned in this thread yet, is that an agreement has been reached on an aero development handicap whereby the worst performing teams are allowed more CFD/windtunnel time than the ones who finished near the top of the constructors' championship.

It's pretty controversial but I actually think this could work and does not damage F1's core, because the team with the best engineers still has a chance to develop a better car then their rivals, even with a bit less resources available.
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Стара порука #126 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:21:38 Цитирај 
So we can all agree about Mr Trump being right....they are FAKE NEWS! :-)
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Стара порука #127 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:32:50 Цитирај 
One of the rare occasions where Trump says something that people agree on.
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Стара порука #128 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:37:16 Цитирај 
Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ May 26th 2020,15:32:50 )

One of the rare occasions where Trump says something that people agree on.


Whether people agree or not seems directly related to the amount of fake news they consume :P
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Стара порука #129 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:38:03 Цитирај 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ May 26th 2020,15:20:32 )

This week's most important F1 news, which has not been mentioned in this thread yet, is that an agreement has been reached on an aero development handicap whereby the worst performing teams are allowed more CFD/windtunnel time than the ones who finished near the top of the constructors' championship.

It's pretty controversial but I actually think this could work and does not damage F1's core, because the team with the best engineers still has a chance to develop a better car then their rivals, even with a bit less resources available.


I rather like this.










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Стара порука #130 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:38:55 Цитирај 
Quote ( Roland Postle @ May 26th 2020,15:12:46 )

Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ May 26th 2020,12:55:33 )

15...30min of news per week is enough. Life is much more calm and you still know most important stuff...
I get 95% of my F1 news from this thread at the moment. Pretty sure I'm not missing anything important.
Yeah me to... :D Some I get from drivers fb site. Like Ricciardo and Bottas
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Стара порука #131 послано Maј 26 2020, 15:39:23 Цитирај 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ May 26th 2020,15:20:32 )

This week's most important F1 news, which has not been mentioned in this thread yet, is that an agreement has been reached on an aero development handicap whereby the worst performing teams are allowed more CFD/windtunnel time than the ones who finished near the top of the constructors' championship.

It's pretty controversial but I actually think this could work and does not damage F1's core, because the team with the best engineers still has a chance to develop a better car then their rivals, even with a bit less resources available.


Sounded so much more dramatic, until I read somewhere the allocated times would be in the range of approximately 90% to 116%. And another note someone made was that this kind of is counter productive to the money saving debate ... smaller teams, likely to have more time in the windtunnel, but being still short on funds to even develop new parts ...
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Стара порука #132 послано Maј 26 2020, 16:03:10 Цитирај 
It makes sense, finishing lower already has monetary repercussions (as it should be) but we also want them to catch up with the top teams, so yes, they should be allowed more access.

It's not like they are being given a huge boost. Just enough to allow them to get closer, but not catch right up to the top teams.
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Стара порука #133 послано Maј 26 2020, 17:16:44 Цитирај 
Far from trying to defend the "modern" journalist class. They have to fill a blank space whether they have news or not. It's like between seasons. No events to report so they have to get creative or just opinionating.

Don't you tell me that Ricciardo is not in Mclaren yet! Damn it, if it's real fake news.
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Стара порука #134 послано Maј 29 2020, 01:31:31 Цитирај 
A rumor that Toto may be leaving Mercedes is making waves, and could open the door for Lewis following him, anybody has reliable information about it? They say Daimler is after Vettel and they are pushing Toto to get rid of Bottas..
I haven’t read more than one article about it, But it could be trouble in paradise
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Стара порука #135 послано Maј 29 2020, 01:48:17 Цитирај 
Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ May 29th 2020,01:31:31 )

A rumor that Toto may be leaving Mercedes is making waves, and could open the door for Lewis following him, anybody has reliable information about it? They say Daimler is after Vettel and they are pushing Toto to get rid of Bottas..
I haven’t read more than one article about it, But it could be trouble in paradise


I've heard, mostly in Spanish F1 channels about the close relationship between Toto and Stroll.

And maybe that could be part of the origin of the pink Mercedes.

Stroll has offered Toto stocks in Racing Point/Aston Martin, and the project to develop a car could be interesting for all parties.

They have not mentioned if Lewis would follow, and mostly because they are discarding that MB would like Hamilton and Vettel together, even with the pressure of Daimler to bring in Vettel.

They have even speculated about Vettel going to Aston Martin, a young project, with some stock incentives and more control on the team.

If Vettel or Lewis go to Aston Martin then Checo would be in serious trouble since I don't think Stroll would kick out his son out of the team even if he is not as good as Perez.

Until Vettel finds a seat the silly season is full of speculation
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Стара порука #136 послано Maј 29 2020, 03:31:27 Цитирај 
My wish is for Mercedes to Add Vettel to Hamilton, and Toto stays.

Also, the rumor may have started with Ecclestone last month, in an interview with The Sun, linking the Austrian to Lawrence Stroll's new venture. But that is like Formula 1 exploding to me. It's too big of a change for all the sport if you think of all the changes coming in the near future.

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Стара порука #137 послано Maј 29 2020, 06:56:08 Цитирај 
If you believe anything the old nutter eccleston has to say, I've got some beach front property for sale at an amazing discount.
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Стара порука #138 послано Maј 29 2020, 07:12:59 Цитирај 
Mercedes sent out an official statement rubbishing those rumours.

https://www.espn.in/f1/story/_/id/29236585/mercedes-responds...
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Стара порука #139 послано Maј 29 2020, 08:03:34 Цитирај 
That being said, I see a strong possibility of a Red Bull like takeover by Lawrence Stroll.

I think it is possible that Mercedes will pull out and be replaced by Aston Martin Racing while Racing Point continue to operate as a sister/junior team.
This is merely me speculating (and I'm often wrong) but I think AMR being a global company wouldn't allow Stroll to place his son in the team as driver (who I believe is a good midfield driver but is far from a star driver). They will want a proven race winner or champion leading the team with a younger talented world championship material teaming up with him.
With RP developing it's own facilities and knowing how to operate economically will be more like a sister team, atleast at the beginning (and while Lance and Perez remain in the team). And could later become a junior team once AMR has caught up with the front runners and their driver development program is established.

Once again, I'll remind you, this is just me speculating and there are no hard facts supporting this theory.
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Стара порука #140 послано Maј 29 2020, 08:53:05 Цитирај 
Just another clickbait nonsense story for a bunch of broke worthless journalists!
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Стара порука #141 послано Maј 29 2020, 10:25:50 Цитирај 
Williams are on about selling their team

Would be a huge shame if the Williams name disappeared from the grid!
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Стара порука #142 послано Maј 29 2020, 10:30:25 Цитирај 
To be fair, Mercedes STILL hasn't signed the Concorde Agreement for 2021+.

I wouldn't be surprised if Aston Martin takes over Mercedes or Racing Point with Toto and Stroll at helm and a driver pairing of Vettel or Hamilton + Stroll (because daddy).

No idea what happens to the other team... Maybe Mercedes still continuies on with Hamilton and Bottas/Perez but there is a strained relationship between some Mercedes executives and Wolff so they might be (finally for anyone sick of Mercedes domination) cut down by politics
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Стара порука #143 послано Maј 29 2020, 15:40:50 Цитирај 
Quote ( Kyle Morris @ May 29th 2020,10:25:50 )

Williams are on about selling their team

Would be a huge shame if the Williams name disappeared from the grid!


Yeah I guess. Thing is though while I would like to see them do well, my sympathies can only extend so far. Even without the virus, the management made some very odd decisions and haven't looked good in terms of operational strategy on both the executive and sporting side of things. It's not good enough to just have fast pitstops these days. You need the whole organisation to be working properly. If your car is as far off the pace as it is it becomes harder to sign drivers who are talented enough and are good at developing the car, and when you don't have that you don't make progress and you don't get as much prize money, and it becomes a downward spiral. So in while I don't really think they deserve this, it's been a long time coming. I think I remember reading Mark Webber's autobiography and he was initially really excited to drive for them, but he quickly became really critical of their culture because they were taking themselves too seriously.
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Стара порука #144 послано Maј 29 2020, 19:30:44 Цитирај 
Williams lost Rokit, now the money will be tight..
They can quit, because if they do, their last winner will be the beloved Pastor

lmao
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