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Konstantinos Ouzounis
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Стара порука #4981 послано Апр 16 2021, 08:56:50 Цитирај 
Didn't manage to sign a new driver and the random driver game selected was the bad one bellow. Fine up to that point. But take a look at his price, 1. 805. 514 salary and additional 2.585.514 signing fee!!!!
For a driver of his attributes???
Is that called a bug or what???

Driver skills
100%
Overall: 77

Concentration: 111

Talent: 70

Aggressiveness: 164

Experience: 25

Technical insight: 62

Stamina: 55

Charisma: 76

Motivation: 0

Reputation: 0

Weight(kg): 80

Age: 20

Current contract details
Current owner: Konstantinos Ouzounis
Group: Pro - 2
Salary: $1.805.514
Contract length: 1 race
Previous work history
Manager name Started working Finished working
Konstantinos Ouzounis Season 81, Race 7 Not yet
Place your offer
This driver has already signed a contract with you.
Salary per race:
1.805.514
$
Signing on fee:
2.585.514



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Стара порука #4982 послано Апр 16 2021, 08:59:31 Цитирај 
Not a bug. That guy has temper issues, man. ;)

On a serious note, you signed a driver out of the blue. It's expected that the offers may be different to what you usually do. You made your Hülkenberg run to the track to race for you - now pay.
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Стара порука #4983 послано Апр 16 2021, 09:01:29 Цитирај 
@Konstantinos Ouzounis (P2) Nothing special, this is the "law" for bad drivers...

Sometimes, it can be better to not race 😆
Konstantinos Ouzounis
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Стара порука #4984 послано Апр 16 2021, 09:11:24 Цитирај 
Vladimir he raised my temper to the limits also!!! 🤯😀
Sébastien I wish I knew that last advice of yours before press choose a bad driver for one race.
Although I insist wages to that selection should follow the abilities of the selected bad driver and not be insane!!!
Not signing a driver and race with one so bad already costs too much, no need to blow up someone's economics further more
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Стара порука #4985 послано Апр 16 2021, 09:12:22 Цитирај 
it seems vlad is winding up alot of people. maybe the HMRC need to pay vlad a visit
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Стара порука #4986 послано Апр 16 2021, 10:34:14 (последња промена Апр 16 2021, 10:42:39 од Mikko Heikkinen) Цитирај 
Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,09:11:24 )

Not signing a driver and race with one so bad already costs too much

IF you didn't sign him but instead skipped a race, it would cost even more


Quote ( Sébastien Boulanger @ April 16th 2021,09:01:29 )

Sometimes, it can be better to not race 😆

Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,09:11:24 )

Sébastien I wish I knew that last advice of yours before press choose a bad driver for one race.


Really ? So instead of paying the high sounding salary, you're saying it would've been better to pay more than ~$7,500,000 ??

Some "advice" isn't necessarily advice





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Стара порука #4987 послано Апр 16 2021, 10:38:06 Цитирај 
wow a new picture for mika hakinnen!
Konstantinos Ouzounis
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Стара порука #4988 послано Апр 16 2021, 11:11:08 Цитирај 
Mikko what I am posting as a potential bug is the insane high salary compared to his attributes.
Do you disagree with that point of view?
It is not I was lazy and didn't logged in so I didn't got prepared, I tried sign 2 drivers but my bids were overcomed. So next race I will race it with a bad driver that's OK and fair enough.
I find however wrong estimated service of that driver cost 4.400.000 for just one race.
Ps take into account not only the cost of him and the car parts wear of that lost race but also the damage to my supporters status not only the ones I have but also the others I am dealing with....
In a few words not agreeing with a preferable driver could blow up a whole season-strategy which seems too harsh to mee


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Стара порука #4989 послано Апр 16 2021, 11:14:46 (последња промена Апр 16 2021, 11:20:36 од Peter Willmore) Цитирај 
You could of bid on say a worse driver than you were hoping but was unlikely to attract bids as a back up to avoid this situation or bid change your driver before it expired to also avoid this situation :)

You were left in a bind, think of it like going to a theme park they have you other a barrel for food and drinks so they can charge you what they want. this driver was your last resort, so also had you over a barrel
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Стара порука #4990 послано Апр 16 2021, 11:14:51 Цитирај 
Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,11:11:08 )

Mikko what I am posting as a potential bug is the insane high salary compared to his attributes.
Do you disagree with that point of view?
It is not I was lazy and didn't logged in so I didn't got prepared, I tried sign 2 drivers but my bids were overcomed. So next race I will race it with a bad driver that's OK and fair enough.
I find however wrong estimated service of that driver cost 4.400.000 for just one race.
Ps take into account not only the cost of him and the car parts wear of that lost race but also the damage to my supporters status not only the ones I have but also the others I am dealing with....
In a few words not agreeing with a preferable driver could blow up a whole season-strategy which seems too harsh to mee




I think the goal of this is more that you see that the random driver you got is NOT TO KEEP and as you saw correctly, his salary is way too high for his ability!
Konstantinos Ouzounis
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Стара порука #4991 послано Апр 16 2021, 11:38:37 Цитирај 
Ricardo game indicates that you will sign a BAD driver and I have already wrote is fair enough, so my goal isn't protest that a bad driver isn't a driver I cannot keep. Once more his salary seems too problematic. Am I the only one see it that way?
Peter it is the first time faced with a situation like that and such economic concequinces are not written at any guide. If I knew I would have act the way you suggest above.
So by my posts firstly administrations could exam if the wage of a bad driver for one race can reach that high and secondly reading that posts may help anyone else not to deal same situation
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Стара порука #4992 послано Апр 16 2021, 11:52:09 Цитирај 
Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,11:38:37 )

Ricardo game indicates that you will sign a BAD driver and I have already wrote is fair enough, so my goal isn't protest that a bad driver isn't a driver I cannot keep. Once more his salary seems too problematic. Am I the only one see it that way?
Peter it is the first time faced with a situation like that and such economic concequinces are not written at any guide. If I knew I would have act the way you suggest above.
So by my posts firstly administrations could exam if the wage of a bad driver for one race can reach that high and secondly reading that posts may help anyone else not to deal same situation


I think you've gotten such responses because you posted in the bug forum (which isn't wrong since you hadn't dealt with this situation before). The responses indicated that it is not a bug and gave some reasons why it works like that. Discussion about whether this is how it should be fits better in the suggestions forum in my opinion. :)
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Стара порука #4993 послано Апр 16 2021, 11:56:20 Цитирај 
Kosta,part of what makes a driver bad, is the high salary.
You've learned your lesson now.
Next time,save an offer for a bad driver in case your other offers are outbidded and make sure this bad driver will get a contract for 1 race but his salary will be very low.
Niels Van Heijster
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Стара порука #4994 послано Апр 16 2021, 12:20:47 Цитирај 
Considering the 4.3M spend on this driver, and having to spend another 1-1,5M on the next driver (if able to sign), the expenditure could be labelled as excessive, I can see your POV @Konstantinos Ouzounis (P2). But there's always a but ...

His contract was running out and there would have been ample options to sign a follow-up driver, over let's say the last 3 GPs, for instance. Also another "back-up" bid is a valid option to at least be able to dodge such a signing. Such a back-up bid could be the cheapest driver possible, just to get you through the races in which you will be on the hunt for a driver to your liking.

I understand your pain from this, but it's not the first time such a thing has been posted on the Forum. If this is your first experience on this, it surely wasn't the first time this happened in the game.

In short, yes, the expense is hefty maybe even too much, but it's not a bug. For future reference, there are plenty of options available to not get into this situation. Best to keep them in mind ...
Konstantinos Ouzounis
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Стара порука #4995 послано Апр 16 2021, 12:39:07 Цитирај 
Richard, George, Niels thank you all for your reply posts.
Agree with Richard that should move for further discussion on suggestion forum
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Стара порука #4996 послано Апр 16 2021, 13:29:46 Цитирај 
Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,11:38:37 )

Peter it is the first time faced with a situation like that and such economic concequinces are not written at any guide. If I knew I would have act the way you suggest above.


Just to clarify it covers it here

https://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Staff_Markets

Konstantinos Ouzounis
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Стара порука #4997 послано Апр 16 2021, 13:57:54 Цитирај 
Peter useful indeed. Contract won't be beneficial isn't clear though. Cause 4.400.000 for a single race doesn't get paid even the elite champion driver! Even half of those would considered much. So argue about abnormal wage to such situation for the bad driver you get remains to my fairness point of view if I can call it that way...
Having a bad driver-"burn" one race disappoint supporters are already fair enough consequences doesn't need add one more so unrealistic.
I am open to read anyone's opinion about my position whether I am wrong about that or not.
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Стара порука #4998 послано Апр 16 2021, 14:03:27 Цитирај 
Kosta,check your financial analysis.
I am not sure if you paid the signing on fee.
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Стара порука #4999 послано Апр 16 2021, 14:10:22 (последња промена Апр 16 2021, 14:16:21 од Miel Soeterbroek) Цитирај 
What George says, doesn't look like you pay a signing fee for a random sucky driver.
At least not the last time i had one (S64)

Edit: scratch that, just my own books that were cooked (cataloged the sign fee under 'other' rather than 'driver' tsk tsk)

E2: Konstantinos was faster ;)
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Стара порука #5000 послано Апр 16 2021, 14:12:40 Цитирај 
Date and time Transaction description Balance before the transaction Amount Balance after the transaction
Season 81, Race 7 - Imola (San Marino)
Today at 09:38:04 Qualify 2 lap costs $28.586.586 $-100.000 $28.486.586
Today at 09:36:04 Qualify 1 lap costs $28.686.586 $-100.000 $28.586.586
Yesterday at 22:18:33 Signing fee for your random driver (Damien Quaife-Hobbs) $31.272.100 $-2.585.514 $28.686.586
Yesterday at 21:13:53 You offered a contract to the driver Damien Watson $31.772.100 $-500.000 $31.272.100
Yesterday at 21:12:03 You offered a contract to the driver Nelson Ribeiro $32.272.100 $-500.000 $31.772.100

George I have already paid his signing fee. Can show you that and by a screenshot
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Стара порука #5001 послано Апр 16 2021, 14:14:43 Цитирај 
No need for a screenshot.
I wasn't sure and I don't remember what happened once I had to sign a bad driver.

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Стара порука #5002 послано Апр 16 2021, 14:43:49 Цитирај 
Would recommend continuing any discussion in an appropriate thread. It isn't a bug so this isn't the best place for it, but there is certainly a debate to be had if a random driver should be as expensive or not - but don't want that debate lost in the bug forum, or bugs being missed due to a discussion on random drivers :)
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Стара порука #5003 послано Апр 16 2021, 17:43:43 (последња промена Апр 16 2021, 17:56:22 од Mikko Heikkinen) Цитирај 
Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,11:11:08 )

It is not I was lazy and didn't logged in so I didn't got prepared, I tried sign 2 drivers but my bids were overcomed.

Looks more like you missed the deadline and therefore called a driver for emergency service.


Quote ( Konstantinos Ouzounis @ April 16th 2021,11:11:08 )

Mikko what I am posting as a potential bug is the insane high salary.
Do you disagree with that point of view?

Kind'a yeah. If I get called to work for emergency duty I do get triple pay + a fixed sum for taking the call.


edit:
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 16th 2021,14:43:49 )

It isn't a bug so this isn't the best place for it,

oh, sure
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Стара порука #5004 послано Апр 16 2021, 17:50:18 Цитирај 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ April 16th 2021,17:43:43 )

Looks more like you missed the deadline and therefore called a driver for emergency service.


I'm guessing he made new offers already, since he didn't get a driver in the previous market.
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Стара порука #5005 послано Апр 16 2021, 17:57:50 Цитирај 
Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ April 16th 2021,17:50:18 )

I'm guessing he made new offers already, since he didn't get...

Sure, a possibility I didn't consider :)
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Стара порука #5006 послано Апр 16 2021, 23:46:28 Цитирај 
Once more you are right Richard just for the history of what happened :)
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