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Danniel Cao
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Старое сообщение #1 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 20:46:46 Цитата 
Hello,

I need help. I am watching the race live and I found my driver making 3 Driver Mistakes before the race even reached halfway... he's been making a lot of mistakes every race (3-4) even though his concentration is in the 190's and risk isn't super high. What is the reasoning behind this?

Sincerely,
The manager who is very pissed at his driver
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Старое сообщение #2 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 20:52:57 Цитата 
Hey Daniel.

Take a few notes:

when are the mistakes happening?
What could it be related to as far as strategy is concerned?
what could it be related to as far as car, or driver is concerned?
what about the track?
take a lot of notes


Gather some data and you'll begin to master it after some time.


Good luck!
Danniel Cao
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Старое сообщение #3 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 21:33:55 Цитата 
thanks, I will be sure to keep that in mind
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Старое сообщение #4 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 21:36:35 Цитата 
Caning him should do the trick
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Старое сообщение #5 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 21:44:43 (последняя редакция 20 Окт 2020, 21:46:20 от Joachim Rang) Цитата 
Which risk isn't super-high?

There are different risks and some are more likely to produce driver mistakes than others.

Also "not super-high" isn't low, so maybe try low risks (you're in Ama, remember)?
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Старое сообщение #6 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 22:07:49 (последняя редакция 20 Окт 2020, 23:56:38 от Florencia Caro) Цитата 
Newbie forum. If you don't want to help the newbie, don't ask him a question. He's a newbie. He wants help.

Danniel, use overtake risk below 10 and see if the excess of mistakes continues. Overtake risk X = few mistakes (average driver).


You will need to test several values of overtake risk to reach a value that can overtake some cars, without having much mistakes. And it's normal that in most races you won't be able to overtake much slower cars using XX overtake risk. XX OR = a lot of mistakes.

Mod edit: removed exact figures
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Старое сообщение #7 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 22:41:38 (последняя редакция 20 Окт 2020, 23:57:38 от Florencia Caro) Цитата 
Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ October 20th 2020,22:07:49 )

Danniel, use overtake risk below X and see if the excess of mistakes continues. Overtake risk X = few mistakes (average driver).

You will need to test several values of overtake risk to reach a value that can overtake some cars, without having much mistakes. And it's normal that in most races you won't be able to overtake much slower cars using XX overtake risk. XX OR = a lot of mistakes.


I think I know the issue now; my overtake risk is much too high. I think I was running in the XX's for overtake and defending risk.

Thanks a lot!

Mod edit: removed exact figures
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Старое сообщение #8 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 22:45:25 Цитата 
Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ October 20th 2020,22:07:49 )

Newbie forum. If you don't want to help the newbie, don't ask him a question. He's a newbie. He wants help.

FOBY is still followed in the newbie section...
Asking questions that guide him to find the answer himself will be better than giving him the right answer...
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Старое сообщение #9 Размещено 20 Окт 2020, 23:45:07 Цитата 
You took all the fun out of it Rogerio, we were nudging him towards the relevant aspects, each giving him a little more information while still observing the FOBY principle. You could have continued in that direction and hinted at one specific risk, which he should be cautious about but instead you just instructed him what to do.

Lame. :-(
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Старое сообщение #10 Размещено 21 Окт 2020, 00:08:49 Цитата 
Also keep in mind that using the same overtake risk on different tracks can give different results.
A track rated very easy overtake is different to a track rated very hard overtaking.
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Старое сообщение #11 Размещено 21 Окт 2020, 00:56:39 Цитата 
Mistakes make you stronger

Your driver just wants to get strong as soon as possible =)
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Старое сообщение #12 Размещено 21 Окт 2020, 01:45:51 Цитата 
And the fact that a driver only makes mistakes just after or just before the pits?
Is this influenced by cold/worn tires? Or it is a driver atribute?
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Старое сообщение #13 Размещено 21 Окт 2020, 08:31:33 (последняя редакция 21 Окт 2020, 08:32:33 от Luke Frost) Цитата 
Quote ( Joachim Rang @ October 20th 2020,23:45:07 )

You took all the fun out of it Rogerio, we were nudging him towards the relevant aspects, each giving him a little more information while still observing the FOBY principle. You could have continued in that direction and hinted at one specific risk, which he should be cautious about but instead you just instructed him what to do.

Lame. :-(



QFT.




Quote ( Danniel Cao @ October 20th 2020,22:41:38 )

I think I know the issue now; my overtake risk is much too high. I think I was running in the XX's for overtake and defending ris
Thanks a lot!



In this community we try to not use exact figures to help. The term is called "FOBY" (Find Out By Yourself) and the philosophy is that you will enjoy the game much more if you can figure it out your own way.

Of course basic help and little hints like what have been given are written to help you figure it out. Let's just say if you learned about lower overtaking risks causing less driver mistakes after just testing it out, you would enjoy it more than some guy just telling you what to do.


Good luck in your first races. :D
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Старое сообщение #14 Размещено 29 Окт 2020, 04:24:37 Цитата 
Quote ( Rodrigo Freire @ October 21st 2020,01:45:51 )

And the fact that a driver only makes mistakes just after or just before the pits?
Is this influenced by cold/worn tires? Or it is a driver atribute?

I'm having the same problem. My driver makes mistakes 2 laps after the first stop every race. I changed the "clear track risk" a lot but the mistakes continues.
What can I do?

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Старое сообщение #15 Размещено 29 Окт 2020, 04:31:38 Цитата 
Quote ( Rodolpho Pinheiro @ October 29th 2020,04:24:37 )

Quote ( Rodrigo Freire @ October 21st 2020,01:45:51 )

And the fact that a driver only makes mistakes just after or just before the pits?
Is this influenced by cold/worn tires? Or it is a driver atribute?

I'm having the same problem. My driver makes mistakes 2 laps after the first stop every race. I changed the "clear track risk" a lot but the mistakes continues.
What can I do?



pm sent
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Старое сообщение #16 Размещено 23 Май 2023, 20:43:34 Цитата 
So sad... what's wrong with this game with 20 risk , 2 mistakes in 1 stints... and one of them is 8 sec... pathetic.. second race in a row .
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Старое сообщение #17 Размещено 23 Май 2023, 21:52:38 Цитата 
Mistakes are caused by many things.

You only mention 20 risks but not which category.

Cold tyres, risks, driver atrributes, incorrect tyres, and every once in while drivers make a mistake. (Even pro real life drivers do).

Check your races and review which could be the issues that generate those mistakes and change accordingly
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Старое сообщение #18 Размещено 26 Май 2023, 02:45:19 (последняя редакция 26 Май 2023, 02:45:47 от Patrick Williams) Цитата 
can someone tell me what FOBY means? Find Out By Yourself?
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Старое сообщение #19 Размещено 26 Май 2023, 03:17:26 Цитата 
Quote ( Patrick Williams @ May 26th 2023,02:45:19 )

can someone tell me what FOBY means? Find Out By Yourself?

correct
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Старое сообщение #20 Размещено 26 Май 2023, 03:58:08 Цитата 
Quote ( Patrick Williams @ May 26th 2023,02:45:19 )

can someone tell me what FOBY means? Find Out By Yourself?


Correct!

you FOBY'ed what FOBY means


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