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Should the boost be displayed during a race?
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William Marzi
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Starý príspevok #1 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:03:00 Citovať 
I've discussed this with 3-4 managers in general forum, but now I've decided to open a poll, as I think this would be very interesting in game. Then everyone has his opinion...

Anyway, here in Gpro we have regulated boost. Three for every race, as happen in Formula E or A1 GP for example. There's nothing like that in F1, driver can change engine mode on their wheel but nothing tightly regulated: they can do it how many times they want in the race.

But when I watched races as A1 GP, it was really interesting to see when drivers use the boosts, and how many they still have. What do you think? I don't think it's a way to reveal everyone strategy, is just something to add interest and transparency in a race.

(and virtually speaking it's also something for our drivers safety: if they know that the car behind can reach faster speed in the straights they will be more careful)
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Starý príspevok #2 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:05:12 Citovať 
I like the suspense of not knowing it for certain, and i'd like to keep those nailbiting 'does-he-still-have-boosts' moments in the race :)
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Starý príspevok #3 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:07:52 (Naposledy zmenené Feb 16 2018, 12:09:32 manažérom William Marzi) Citovať 
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ February 16th 2018,12:05:12 )

I like the suspense of not knowing it for certain, and i'd like to keep those nailbiting 'does-he-still-have-boosts' moments in the race :)


Ok. Thank you for the answer.
But don't you think it could be something that keep also the newbies more attached to the screen during a race?
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Starý príspevok #4 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:15:58 Citovať 
I'm not convinced it will have an effect on newbies' race pleasure either way. Clarity on why they're being slower for a few laps may be positive for some, and similarly the suspense of not knowing (/some randomness) may be positive to others ;)
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Starý príspevok #5 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:19:18 Citovať 
Well, I think there's is suspense also in seeing what cars with boost are able to do in those 3 laps.
I'm convinced it will add a lot of potential interest in a live race... but percentages are clear for now, I've to accept this :D
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Starý príspevok #6 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:22:14 Citovať 
I think it's safest to assume everyone is using boost when we aren't, then we don't have to feel so bad about being slow :)
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Starý príspevok #7 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:43:30 Citovať 
I respect William´s point on this issue...

However, I can't agree with it, because boosts laps are part of every manager`s strategies. I agree that it can be revealed to teammates if you are in a team, but not for anybody else outside the team.

It is, in my opinion, more interesting to not know about them as it will also make managers wonder and be good enough to find alternative solutions.
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Starý príspevok #8 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:47:55 Citovať 
Quote ( Tomás Coelho @ February 16th 2018,12:43:30 )

I respect William´s point on this issue...

However, I can't agree with it, because boosts laps are part of every manager`s strategies. I agree that it can be revealed to teammates if you are in a team, but not for anybody else outside the team.

It is, in my opinion, more interesting to not know about them as it will also make managers wonder and be good enough to find alternative solutions.


Thank you Tomás, but I don't get how this could be a real problem. I mean, boosts are revealed just like the laps that we pit are, and they're different in every race.

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Starý príspevok #9 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:49:21 Citovať 
I don't see why boost laps should be less secret than tyre compound and risks used.
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Starý príspevok #10 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 12:54:51 (Naposledy zmenené Feb 16 2018, 12:57:05 manažérom William Marzi) Citovať 
Quote ( Ania Piekarska @ February 16th 2018,12:49:21 )

I don't see why boost laps should be less secret than tyre compound and risks used.


'Cause to know the risks used, add absolutely nothing to a race.
And about the tyres, well there's also competion between different suppliers so it's right not to know them... but boosts are boosts, three in every race as a rule, why not know them?
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Starý príspevok #11 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 13:06:43 Citovať 
3 in every race as a rule? Hmm I must have broken the rules really often then, when using 0, 1 or 2 boosts.
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Starý príspevok #12 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 13:09:36 Citovať 
Taking into account energy, knowing opponents' risks gives a huuuge information about the race outcome.

I don't get your argument about the tyres though. There is no magic regarding tyre suppliers, one may say that regarding tyre wear (because that's what is not completely revealed during race), more suppliers just mean more softness choices.
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Starý príspevok #13 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 13:24:27 Citovať 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ February 16th 2018,13:06:43 )

3 in every race as a rule? Hmm I must have broken the rules really often then, when using 0, 1 or 2 boosts.


You can't use more than 3... come on, be serious

Quote ( Ania Piekarska @ February 16th 2018,13:09:36 )


I don't get your argument about the tyres though. There is no magic regarding tyre suppliers, one may say that regarding tyre wear (because that's what is not completely revealed during race), more suppliers just mean more softness choices.


The point is: since we have different suppliers that make different tyres there's no sense in knowing what tyres everyone wears.
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Starý príspevok #14 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 13:26:55 Citovať 
Quote ( William Marzi @ February 16th 2018,13:24:27 )

You can't use more than 3... come on, be serious

I am being serious - I don't want everyone to know when I'm using less than 3. Just like I don't want them to know my risks.
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Starý príspevok #15 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 13:40:12 Citovať 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ February 16th 2018,13:26:55 )

I am being serious - I don't want everyone to know when I'm using less than 3. Just like I don't want them to know my risks.


Okay, that's good.
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Starý príspevok #16 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 19:08:07 Citovať 
Don't see why it should be hidden at all. Some cults over here want to hide everything 😅
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Starý príspevok #17 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 19:23:44 (Naposledy zmenené Feb 16 2018, 19:26:37 manažérom Rafael Zambrano) Citovať 
When you will use i dont agree ,
but How many boosts did u have yet could be nice...

but just for show for other when will use the boost i dont agree because i dont see any reason to share this with others.
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Starý príspevok #18 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 19:34:46 Citovať 
The thumbs downs votes to the OP are ridiculous! Answer the poll or don't click the thread to start with...

I see your reasoning William, but I'm not convinced it would help and could hinder, so not a change that is needed I don't think.
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Starý príspevok #19 Odoslané Feb 16 2018, 19:40:48 Citovať 
Quote ( Sam Norris @ February 16th 2018,19:34:46 )

The thumbs downs votes to the OP are ridiculous! Answer the poll or don't click the thread to start with...

I see your reasoning William, but I'm not convinced it would help and could hinder, so not a change that is needed I don't think.


Oh thanks, someone reasonable. Then If you don't like it is not a problem.

Now brace yourself to the tumbs down :D
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Starý príspevok #20 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 01:32:16 Citovať 
Quote ( Sam Norris @ February 16th 2018,19:34:46 )

The thumbs downs votes to the OP are ridiculous! Answer the poll or don't click the thread to start with...


You need a safe space? Trophies for everyone?
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Starý príspevok #21 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 02:46:11 (Naposledy zmenené Feb 17 2018, 02:49:31 manažérom Mikko Heikkinen) Citovať 
Quote ( William Marzi @ February 16th 2018,12:03:00 )

I don't think it's a way to reveal everyone strategy, is just something to add interest and transparency in a race.

Don't you think that's contradictory ?

"transparency" as in show strategy to everyone as in reveal

Also, this would reveal what kind of selections managers favor, which could take away the interest and not increase it.
strategy selections are not supposed to be advertised,

Quote ( William Marzi @ February 16th 2018,12:03:00 )

as I think this would be very interesting in game.

It can also take away the interest.

Currently you don't know if the car behind you has boosts left or not, if they are showed that would take away the excitement.
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Starý príspevok #22 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 10:17:09 (Naposledy zmenené Feb 17 2018, 10:22:19 manažérom William Marzi) Citovať 
Well, we can also skip the whole race and go straight to results... You know, the live race screen reveals our strategy selections for the pit stops
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Starý príspevok #23 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 10:41:48 Citovať 
OK so wat is the point. You see I have 2 boost half of the race a you don't so was will you do about it?

I even don't wanna see yours it makes me scary and it not fun to watch if you see someone behind you have 2 boost you not hihihi.

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Starý príspevok #24 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 10:42:35 Citovať 
*sarcasm mode on*

Maybe we should show CT/OVER/BLOK risks also, and Fuel level in car?!

*sarcasm mode off*


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Starý príspevok #25 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 10:49:12 (Naposledy zmenené Feb 17 2018, 10:49:34 manažérom Jaimely Angel) Citovať 
Quote ( Bronek Obarewicz @ February 17th 2018,10:42:35 )

*sarcasm mode on*

Maybe we should show CT/OVER/BLOK risks also, and Fuel level in car?!

*sarcasm mode off*


My strategy is my strategy.




Hihihihi no that's FOBY whahahahahha
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Starý príspevok #26 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 10:50:16 Citovať 
I don't think the boosts is something we need to Hide, it will be fun to know them... That's my only point, no need to relate this to setup and risks, which nobody wants to show
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Starý príspevok #27 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 10:55:27 Citovať 
Quote ( William Marzi @ February 17th 2018,10:50:16 )

I don't think the boosts is something we need to Hide, it will be fun to know them... That's my only point, no need to relate this to setup and risks, which nobody wants to show


But Boost Strategy is also strategy ? :D
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Starý príspevok #28 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 11:01:58 Citovať 
Quote ( Bronek Obarewicz @ February 17th 2018,10:55:27 )


But Boost Strategy is also strategy ? :D


And so? Some parts of the strategies are spoiled during a race, and this could be spoiled to. I think it's different from risks, and has to be less secret.

Then everyone has his opinion but please the "so then reveal also our risks" is a silly argument.
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Starý príspevok #29 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 11:10:01 Citovať 
I think it would be nice to see.
Does not really reveal anything FOBY, but would be nice to see who uses them and also see who wasted them being blocked while boosting :P
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Starý príspevok #30 Odoslané Feb 17 2018, 11:27:58 Citovať 
That. That. It's that what I mean. And then again it's not always sure that everyone will use every boost...
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