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Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,21:45:19 ) Of course everything will go up. So what I can Stand it. I Will use car less
It's good that you understand this.
Tell me, does the whole Czech Republic agree with your opinion? Residents of the Czech Republic voted, for example, on such a question:
"Are we ready for a total inflation of 40% and a doubling of prices in exchange for sanctions against Russia?"
Or do you believe your press and your government that sanctions against Russia will not harm ordinary residents of the Czech Republic in any way?
Help from the EU is good, but if there is inflation throughout the EU, then there may not be enough help for everyone.
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#1710 Yayınlanma zamanı: 7 Mar 2022, 21:57:49 (son değiştirilme 7 Mar 2022, 22:06:34 kim tarafından: Martti Kaasik)
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Quote ( Harri Pakosta @ March 7th 2022,20:14:05 ) Europe is not under the control of the United States, that is just idiotic. We are in fact economic rivals. Yeah and kids don't celebrate Halloween and santa clause don't mean coca-cola... Sorry but US does manipulate with all allies.
Quote ( Harri Pakosta @ March 7th 2022,20:14:05 ) Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine is not Russia. Russia has no rights to Ukraine. The blame is on Russia, no sane person is convinced by the Russian excuses given for the invasion.
How much have you read or heard about Ukraine last 10-15 years? or even 30 years?
How much have any here who support Ukraine really heard any Putins claims/speaces direct from him not only media cut outs?
I'm against war really but having heard over the years west vs east I do feel Putin was right when he said he did not have any other way.
Even more I really hope and US, NATO and EU will stop that TOUGH guy politic and START LISTENING FOR DAMN 5 min. not just talking and demanding... or else good bye...
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,21:26:39 ) Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,21:16:03 )
the russian politologist living in Czech Republic.
I had friends in Russia, then they moved to Prague. I found them 12 years later and started talking.
So they began to worry about me, because it's so scary here in Moscow, I'm constantly risking my life and we have no security here.
It seems to have been in 2010.
I was very surprised that they didn't know anything about us. Even people who can easily read the Russian press, watch Russian TV.
I think they watched only Western TV and, like ordinary Russian people, believed everything that was said in it.
Try to find the people who were with us and let them tell you honestly what they saw here.
I've been to Europe and America.
The difference Is this Is politologist - active specialist for Russian politics.
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Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ March 7th 2022,21:55:45 ) Strange I heard Norway said they are already on maximum capacity and can't give any more than they already do.
Saudi Arabia said it could raise the maximum by 3%.
Apparently everyone believes that America will save them. And for free.
By the way, America supplies only liquefied gas. And there is not so much equipment in Europe to accept liquefied gas in large volumes.
The Europeans are "shooting themselves in the foot," but they don't know about it yet.
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Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ March 7th 2022,21:55:45 ) Quote ( Shaun Thornton @ March 7th 2022,19:54:02 )
you have heard of North sea gas in UK, and Norway helps out too. Strange I heard Norway said they are already on maximum capacity and can't give any more than they already do.
Russian propaganda, for the puppets
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,21:57:17 ) Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,21:45:19 )
Of course everything will go up. So what I can Stand it. I Will use car less
It's good that you understand this.
Tell me, does the whole Czech Republic agree with your opinion? Residents of the Czech Republic voted, for example, on such a question:
"Are we ready for a total inflation of 40% and a doubling of prices in exchange for sanctions against Russia?"
Or do you believe your press and your government that sanctions against Russia will not harm ordinary residents of the Czech Republic in any way?
Help from the EU is good, but if there is inflation throughout the EU, then there may not be enough help for everyone.
Right Now i think about 80-85% people Is prepared to do it the way Im going to, because they hope this Will Force you not to continue with your war aggression.
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Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,22:01:04 ) active specialist for Russian politics.
I know many "experts on Russian politics" who live only abroad in Russia.
Do you know why?
Because they tell everyone what a tyrant, aggressor and dictator Putin is.
By the way, they were all allowed to leave the country freely, where they are imprisoned for 15 years for any opinion against Putin.
Is there no contradiction?
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#1716 Yayınlanma zamanı: 7 Mar 2022, 22:07:48 (son değiştirilme 7 Mar 2022, 22:13:09 kim tarafından: Martti Kaasik)
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Quote ( Shaun Thornton @ March 7th 2022,22:05:04 ) Russian propaganda, for the puppets
That was said by natural gas giant Equinor ASA on Euro news... Damn did Putin got to them as well? :D
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Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ March 7th 2022,22:07:48 ) Quote ( Shaun Thornton @ March 7th 2022,22:05:04 )
Russian propaganda, for the puppets
That was said by natural gas giant Equinor ASA on Euro news... Damn did Putin got to them as well? :D
got to hand it to all you Putin lovers, you have managed to turn the discussion round to energy supply.
let’s get back on topic and talk about your mindless killing of Ukrainian children.
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Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,22:06:04 ) Right Now i think about 80-85% people Is prepared to do it the way Im going to, because they hope this Will Force you not to continue with your war aggression.
Honestly, several Russian guys have already tried to tell you here that pushing, humiliating and insulting Russian people is the way for them to unite, rally, start helping each other and together withstand any blockade.
Imagine that a stone wall becomes only stronger the more it is hit.
If you bring a thousand people, then with your blows on the stone wall you will only achieve that it will be a solid stone.
Before you fight with someone, you need to at least get to know these people.
OK, try it.
Don't tell me you weren't warned.
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#1719 Yayınlanma zamanı: 7 Mar 2022, 22:20:29 (son değiştirilme 7 Mar 2022, 22:31:29 kim tarafından: Paulo Neves)
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,21:40:22 ) Perhaps I have expressed myself incorrectly or taken out of context.
Please answer the question intelligently:
Please stop patronising.
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,21:40:22 ) Why did Russia invade Ukraine? Looks like you can't understand one simple thing: The only acceptable reasons for an invasion are:
- An attack from the other country.
- Immediate danger coming from the other country.
So, unless you are willing to prove one of those conditions, the blame stays with Russia.
But I've already given you the answer that you asked for here:Quote ( Paulo Neves @ March 7th 2022,15:31:56 ) Russia new demands to stop the war - sorry - the "Special Operation":
-Ukraine must change its constitution to guarantee it won't join any "blocs", i.e. NATO + EU.
-Must recognise Crimea as part of Russia.
-Must recognise the eastern separatist regions as independent.
source: https://twitter.com/Reevellp/status/1500810351192985600
All that talk about denazification is gone. In fact, it was always nothing more than a very bad excuse for a "Special Operation"
This is from Russia government, so no subject to discussion. That's what Putin wants, thats what he seeks, that is not one of the acceptable conditions. THE BLAME STAYS WITH RUSSIA
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Ukrainians, what ever you do, don't get captured by Russians in this war. History will repeat itself since we have not learned our collective lessons yet. At the end of World War II, it took the USSR over five years before they released most of their prisoners of war! They treated the POWs as bad as the Axis treated Russian POWs but for much longer.
Since they are already spinning this that direction, you should expect them to repeat that.
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#1721 Yayınlanma zamanı: 7 Mar 2022, 22:50:55 (son değiştirilme 7 Mar 2022, 23:00:57 kim tarafından: Ihor Rusnak)
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:38:07 ) You went out with portraits of Bandera because you thought that Europe, the USA and NATO were protecting you and therefore the Russians would never come for you.
The Russians came to Ukraine due to the fact that Ukraine (mind you, far from all) remembers a man who, among other things, fought against the Nazis. I understand correctly?
Do you recall torchlight processions in Russia itself? Would you like to show the monuments to the Vlasotians in Russia itself? I have already published a video where Rogozin throws a Nazi salute at a nationalist rally and says that Moscow is for Russians, need i show again? Maybe you don't see how people in Moscow are being arrested today for the Ukrainian flag? or for the fact that they enter with a poster "no war"? So who is Nazi?
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,22:16:23 ) Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,22:06:04 )
Right Now i think about 80-85% people Is prepared to do it the way Im going to, because they hope this Will Force you not to continue with your war aggression.
Honestly, several Russian guys have already tried to tell you here that pushing, humiliating and insulting Russian people is the way for them to unite, rally, start helping each other and together withstand any blockade.
Imagine that a stone wall becomes only stronger the more it is hit.
If you bring a thousand people, then with your blows on the stone wall you will only achieve that it will be a solid stone.
Before you fight with someone, you need to at least get to know these people.
OK, try it.
Don't tell me you weren't warned.
Tell me how did I pushed, humiliated or insulted Russian people? I dont mind Russia. I dont care about Russia. Till IT starts the war And threaten half of Europe.
I can say few things about Russia that Are important for me right Now And that I learned from our history.
1. Most of Russians usually tend to autocracy and they see democracy as a weekness,
2. Usually Russia do not act according to any conventions. You can't say what the will do next. Never turn your back to them!
3. Russia doesnt care about countries under 80M people.
4. Russians Are very strong nationalists who want to destroy any other nationalists<div>5. Russia is usually led by all-able lunatics.
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#1723 Yayınlanma zamanı: 7 Mar 2022, 23:08:35 (son değiştirilme 7 Mar 2022, 23:11:20 kim tarafından: Daryl Gee)
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,22:16:23 ) Imagine that a stone wall becomes only stronger the more it is hit.
That's not something that happens.
Russia is in the wrong and the more people tell you that, ffs, you're very obviously in the wrong here, the stronger you become?
Nope. At some point a sane person opens their mind to understand why everyone is so pissed off with them and thinks, ok, maybe we shouldn't be killing people.
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The United States is considering easing sanctions on Venezuela to smooth out demand and oil prices on the world market. I wonder what will outweigh - friendship with Russia or fresh petrodollars?
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) You don't understand how Europe is already connected to each other.
You're again underestimating me ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) And that Russian gas (from which electricity is generated) is in any (!!!) a European product.
True to some extend. However, the Dutch have some gas reserves of their own. The production was turned down in recent years as that particular part of the country was faced with earthquakes up to 4 Richter scale. However, following the events as they are unfolding, there already was a poll, and the majority of the population in said area agreed to scale up gas production on these Dutch fields again to compensate. Also, FYI, there's a contract we have with Germany, if they ask for gas, the Dutch are obliged to deliver as requested ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) I answered above about Bandera.
We consider him a Nazi, Ukraine a hero.
It's all about nationalistic thinking. While the above is the case in Ukraine, Stalin in Russia AFAIK is still considered to be a great man in Soviet/Russian history, where as on the other side of the borders he's mostly remembered for a lot of death under his reign through femin and gulags to name but a few reasons. Ask the Brits, one of the Dutch great names in history is Michiel de Ruyter who defeated the English fleet in The Dutch Raid also known as The Raid on the Medway. Obviously the English view this differently, but as it is that long ago, it's water under the bridge and doesn't affect modern views of each other anymore.
However, you also stated
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) It is difficult for us to explain about the Nazis in Europe - they are just people who fought with the terrible Stalin, who tortured millions of people.
I thus take it you are aware of his legacy (?)
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) Yes, I know about this case. This is reported to you. We have other information. That they were Ukrainian Nazis. And no one will check its correctness now.
I expected that, two very different versions to the same incident. Something similar as is still happening regards MH17. I guess we will both have to wait until history will show. I simply ask of you to not just dismiss all incidents on which either the Russian Forces or the Ukrainian forces are stated to be the perpetrators. Changes are that as the number of incidents rises, both parties will be responsible for their share of incidents. It's basic statistics if you would like to leave emotions out of such ..
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) Have you heard that the Ukrainian military killed an Israeli citizen when he wanted to leave the country?
Yes, this is reported to have happened at a Ukrainian checkpoint.
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) Or that one of the members of the Ukrainian delegation for negotiations in Belarus was killed in Kiev?
It was reported here too, the Ukraine 's Ministry of Defence acknowledged Denis Kireev (45yr) was a spy, but said he was carrying out "special tasks" and was "defending Ukraine" - sparking speculation he was a double agent. Who will ever know the full truth on this?
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) Do you think they will all start fighting against the Russians, and not go robbing stores and killing everyone they don't like?
Maybe not all, there's always that risk. However, peculiar things happen when a country is under full attack of another country. It's a bonding experience. How long that will last when supplies get low, no one knows.
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:09:32 ) To help you support Ukraine.
Too bad you stoop back to this level, the above was a proper discussion, to which this level of comments is not contributing! I understand frustration, but let's see if we both can get past that and keep things as clean as possible. Agreed?!
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:30:52 ) It is pleasant for you to say that the Russians are under Putin's rule, but ...
It's equally "pleasant" as you constantly referring to the idea that Europe would be under the control of the United States. It's a POV, and it's not so much being under control of the US, at this end. It's more related to how the western world is connected by trade and commerce. I understand you have a particular view, but we like it this way despite the negatives that are also involved. Bottom line, this way of interconnecting between the western countries, brought all of us a certain level of prosperity we like ;)
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:30:52 ) But what is there in the world (except tulips) of the world-famous from the Netherlands?
There's probably a long list of Dutch products, longer than I would be able to sum up. But to name a few, chips by ASML, in depth IT knowledge I know for a fact Russia would like to have (after all a few Russian spies after this technology were caught and expelled), online digital defense which the Dutch apparently are somewhat good at (they are constantly fighting Russian based/funded hackers around the clock, gas and oil technology via Shell, knowledge on fighting the water by several compagnies, luxury yachts cherished by may of the Oligarchs, cheese, to name but a few. In 2019 the Dutch exported a total of almost 2,9 billion Euro to Russia ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:30:52 ) Can you read Russian?
You should really pay better attention when I reply, I stated several times I'm not able to ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,19:30:52 ) Or do you read about Stalin only those books that will be translated into English? and those articles that are posted on the Internet?
And again, this is not the level we should communicate at. Besides you are again underestimating me, or do you know more about me than I ever told you or anybody else in GPRO for that matter? I kindly request you stop this behavior towards me at least ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,20:01:40 ) Only in delirium can we assume that the Russian military does not want to withdraw civilians from under fire.
Yet somehow the creation a safe humanitarian corridors for civilians to leave the besieged cities failed numerous times due to fights continuing. You will sat it's due to the Ukrainians, They will say it's due to the Russian. I say it's a record on repeat ever since MH17 was shot down. Bottom line is, civilians will suffer yet again more and longer. More small children will die ... think of it. Does it really matter who is to blame for these failures?!
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,20:13:37 ) It is not profitable for Russian troops to have civilian casualties?
Absolutely not, but that doesn't mean that it's not happening. Denying that Russian forces also are responsible for a good portion of killed Ukrainian civilians is just unrealistic. It's happening, whether you like it or not. You can dispute any particular incident and point towards the Ukrainian forces, but you know better than that. In the grand scheme of things, including all the targeting of more and more civilian buildings, schools and hospitals only common sense is needed to be able to see that Russian Forces are at least part to blame for civilian casualties, right?! Time will tell more details.
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,20:54:44 ) But you can tell us about NATO, the Warsaw Pact,
Seriously, did you know that NATO basically was an answer to the way the western allies viewed the apparent aggression shown by the Soviets as they took more and more control over the countries that later were grouped in the Warschau Pact?! On 4 March 1947, the Treaty of Dunkirk was signed by France and the United Kingdom as a Treaty of Alliance and Mutual Assistance in the event of a possible attack by Germany or the Soviet Union in the aftermath of World War II. In 1948, this alliance was expanded to include the Benelux countries, in the form of the Western Union, also referred to as the Brussels Treaty Organization (BTO), established by the Treaty of Brussels. Talks for a new military alliance, which could also include North America, resulted in the signature of the North Atlantic Treaty on 4 April 1949 by the member states of the Western Union plus the United States, Canada, Portugal, Italy, Norway, Denmark and Iceland. And that's just why is was created ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,20:48:03 ) I am interested in what arguments you give
Meanwhile there are now over 1700 posts and a good number of them have provided several reasons for such. Denial doesn't mean it wasn't stated before. We are going around in circles again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again ... You know better!
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,21:40:22 ) Youtube is available in Russia. In the meantime, many of the videos that are published in the Western press turn out to be fake.
Would you trust me when I would tell you that this is also not a strange approach to savvy Russian based a/o Russian minded computer geeks?! If you think all western video's are fake and all Russian video's are true, then we have found the root cause of why your views are so skewed from my POV ... If you know the creation of fake videos'is an industry on its own, why would it be so hard to believe its happening at both sides of the fence?! Do open your eyes and start to see!
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,21:40:22 ) Why did Russia invade Ukraine?
To be frank, the world would really want to know! As for the reasons provided to date do not add up, and it's why the west views the all out Russian invasion as illegal! Don't turn it around and ask the west to provide the Russian Forces with the reason why. You should be able to ask the Russian Forces themselves, but even they don't seem to know. Russian forces were asked, and at least a good deal of them on't know why they are dying in the Ukraine (if at all they know they are there at all), as all they were sent of to was to attend to training exercises along the Ukrainian border ...
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,22:16:23 ) Honestly, several Russian guys have already tried to tell you here that pushing, humiliating and insulting Russian people is the way for them to unite, rally, start helping each other and together withstand any blockade.
And you have paid me the same respect you would like to receive as well? We all have brothers that stand together. This rhetoric is not helping to solve squad.
Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,22:16:23 ) Before you fight with someone, you need to at least get to know these people.
And what did you learn about me, as I cannot speak for anybody else ... ?
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,22:16:23 ) Honestly, several Russian guys have already tried to tell you here that pushing, humiliating and insulting Russian people is the way for them to unite, rally, start helping each other and together withstand any blockade.
Luckily pushing, humiliating and insulting Ukrainian people has already proved to unite, rally, start helping each other by Ukrainians. And together try to withstand the agression by, speaking of "nazi", totalitarian and expansionist neighbour.
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Quote ( Shaun Thornton @ March 7th 2022,22:15:39 ) got to hand it to all you Putin lovers, you have managed to turn the discussion round to energy supply. It was you who mentioned Norwegian gas I just responded to it as I know about Norway pretty good.
and I don't like to be called pupet... I have heard both sides and I always do try to listen to both/all sides and make my decision. Listening only west media(one side) I think would be more brain washed. Would you listen in court also just one side and ban other side even to enter the court?
Also I did mention I do not agree with war not in east of Ukraine or the rest of Ukraine... or any killing anywhere... Also in other places on earth like Iraq or Afganistan or even Vietnam... or other 200 places...
Keeping to topic... I'm against war for sure... but I'm not so sure it is only Putins or Russians fault...
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Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ March 7th 2022,23:48:20 ) I'm against war for sure... but I'm not so sure it is only Putins or Russians fault...
it's called victimblaming, nationwide at all
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,17:52:37 ) But now the Ukrainian Nazis are not releasing refugees from Sumy, Kharkiv and Mariupol. Civilians!
You will say that the refugees are being shelled by the Russian military. Answer - why?
The Ukrainian Nazis do not release civilians to hide behind a "human shield" and so that we do not bomb residential buildings.
And why should we shoot at refugees?
Every time there is a cease-fire to allow the refugees to leave, the #$&* Russians start shelling again within half an hour. It's like they're deliberately trying to kill the refugees.
And is this the bullshit they tell you? That the Ukrainians aren't letting them leave? Insane!
And you think that all of this international support, effort and sanctions is to stop Russia from killing Nazis? Insane again! 😅
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Quote ( Rafal Jurowski @ March 8th 2022,00:00:40 ) Russians start shelling again within half an hour. It's like they're deliberately trying to kill the refugees.
their main task is to make sure that people who want to be evacuated are sent exclusively by corridors that are suitable for Russia. Now there are 2 of them - one leads to Belarus (from the Kiev and Chernihiv regions), the second - straight to Russia.
This is necessary for the propaganda picture that people are fleeing not to the West, but to Russia.
Although in fact, about 50,000 people ended up in Russia, mainly from the so-called "DPR" and "LPR", the rest, almost 2 million, are fleeing from the "liberators" to Europe. This is probably the best indicator of who the Ukrainians are actually afraid of.
Thanks to Poland for the great help in everything
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Quote ( Pavel Král @ March 7th 2022,22:56:31 )
And is this the bullshit they tell you? That the Ukrainians aren't letting them leave? Insane! we will have to come up with another word for "Lie" because the Russians are really taking the piss now with this narrative
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ March 7th 2022,20:54:44 ) I haven't even started yet.
But you can tell us about NATO, the Warsaw Pact, new countries and the years when they joined NATO.
Or about the military conflicts in which the NATO defense alliance participated, who and from whom did it protect in them?
Tell me?
1. Bosnia and Herzegovina: mission sanctioned by the United Nations in order to bring an end to the Bosnian war. Russia voted in favour of this mission.
2. Kosovo: mission not sanctioned by the UN, so probably an illegal intervention. Over the course of the 2 months of bombings, around 500 civilians were killed (which is terrible, but less than the number of civilian fatalities in Ukraine in just 10 days). In NATO's defence, the bombing did pave the way for diplomacy to step in and did bring an end to most of the violence. It also resulted in the arrest and conviction of war criminals such as Milosevic.
3. Afghanistan: while clearly a failure if you look at it 20 years later, I think the invasion was justified and legal following the 9/11 attacks.
4. Libya: mission sanctioned by the UN, no forces on the ground. Led to the capture of the lunatic Gaddafi who was shooting up his own people. Russia abstained from voting in the UN Security Council.
War is always ugly, I don't think NATO's record looks much worse than that of others.
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Quote ( Stephen Brooks @ March 7th 2022,22:46:06 ) Ukrainians, what ever you do, don't get captured by Russians in this war. History will repeat itself since we have not learned our collective lessons yet. At the end of World War II, it took the USSR over five years before they released most of their prisoners of war! They treated the POWs as bad as the Axis treated Russian POWs but for much longer.
Since they are already spinning this that direction, you should expect them to repeat that.
We know how Russians treated POWs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
22,000 Polish prisoners of war (mostly officers), individually murdered, by a bullet to the back of the head.
And then for 45 years we had to pretend this was done by the Nazis, because if you said Katyn was done by the Soviets, or even mentioned Katyn, it was going to be bad news for you and your family...
We even had to pretend it happened in 1941 instead of 1940, so that the blame could be placed on the Nazis.
In Poland, everyone knew, but had to publicly pretend the opposite. I wonder how many people in Russia know the truth (about what's happening now), but are forced to lie out of fear.. I mean, who wants to go to jail for 15 years for speaking the truth? 🤔
Edit: Kids were taught fake history in school, but if they mentioned anything to make the teacher suspect that they knew the truth...
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Quote ( Martti Kaasik @ March 7th 2022,12:31:41 ) Some people believe world is flat and some americans(probably not only them) still think world is about 2000 years old and god created everything... Nothing like bringing religion into an already controversial topic. I'm not sure if you know this, but there are religious people in many other countries beside the US. Also, I've never heard any religious person say the world is about 2000 years old. Blanket statements are for fools.
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#1735 Yayınlanma zamanı: 8 Mar 2022, 01:39:45 (son değiştirilme 8 Mar 2022, 01:40:57 kim tarafından: Ihor Rusnak)
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Quote ( Adrian Summers @ March 8th 2022,01:33:10 ) Nothing like bringing religion into an already controversial topic. I'm not sure if you know this, but there are religious people in many other countries beside the US. Also, I've never heard any religious person say the world is about 2000 years old. Blanket statements are for fools.
you communicate with a person who lives in the country and, apparently, supports the leadership in everything
meanwhile leadership:
1. Lavrov - Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation - "we started this special operation so that there would be no war in Russia"
2. Gundyaev - the head of their church - there is a war in Ukraine (although he did not call it a war) because Donbass does not want gay parades
that's all
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i believe the russian president is a real pig!! and must die
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I'm going to ask a question here that probably isn't going to be very popular but I think it bears discussion and it would be interesting to see what other people think on the subject.
The vast majority of the sane and civilized free world are imposing sanctions on Russia, it's sportspeople are unable to compete internationally, it's businesses (apart from gas and oil, and that should stop now in my opinion) are finding it increasingly difficult to trade with any nation with a moral backbone, and an ever growing list of companies are refusing goods and services to them. What I'm wondering is what's going to happen here? Is GPRO still accepting Russian supporter money and if so would that ever change? If the atrocities being committed in Ukraine continue would there come a point where Russian members had their accounts suspended?
Apologies to el Presidente, I don't mean to put you on the spot or cause offence, and I don't expect an answer from on high. I was just wondering what the general feeling among other managers is.
Edit: Sorry if this has been asked before, I looked but couldn't find it anywhere.
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Gpro is a game and not reality of what happens in the world.
We don't have to ban Russian or other People, we have to be responsible of internet peace
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